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- - By rangerod (**) Date 10-07-2010 22:03
Can inconel be welded to 304L to pressure vessel quality?

Rod
Parent - - By Lawrence (*****) Date 10-07-2010 22:18
I've seen 308 filler used on inconel base metal in circumstances when Precipitation hardenable inconels were welded and annealing was impossable...

But your question is too vague...

Inconel is a whole family of alloys..

What type of inconel?

Pressure vessel... Ok...  is it an external bracket weld or are you just trying to get filler metal on the cheap for your critical joints?

What pressures in the vessel..?

What thickness is the base metal? 

What is the operating temp of the vessel? 

What is the vessel actually holding?

What code is this vessel in compliance with?

This is an engineering level question and not really one for a chat forum... But throw us a bone man.. More data  :)
Parent - - By rangerod (**) Date 10-07-2010 22:33
Sorry about the lack of info here is what we are looking for.

*Inconel 718
*304L dome ends to the inconel 718 center section body basically manufacturing the entire vessel
*No code
*Pressure - 10% strain to fail on weld
*holding water
*+/- 60C

We are looking for any ss with a yeild above 80 KSI. Beyond that info I really can't get into it too deep but I'll try to provide additional info if I can.
Rod
Parent - - By G.S.Crisi (****) Date 10-08-2010 01:33
I suggest that you get in touch with the manufacturers of Inconel alloys and ask them. They're very kind people and will be glad to help you, moreover taking into account that you're asking a question on how to use their products.
Their site: www.inco.com
The former International Nickel Company has been bought by the Brazilian Vale, so don't be surprised that when entering the site it says Vale.
Giovanni S. Crisi
Sao Paulo - Brazil
Parent - - By rangerod (**) Date 10-08-2010 14:30
G.S. Crisi

Thank you for the point of contact, I appreciate the help. I did call a few companies asking this question but I hit a wall with all of them.

Rod
Parent - - By G.S.Crisi (****) Date 10-08-2010 19:31
How did you get along with INCO/Vale? Did they give you the required information?
If not, I'll send an uneducated e-mail written in Portuguese to their head office here in Brazil, blaming them for not helping the users of their products.
Giovanni S. Crisi
Parent - By rangerod (**) Date 10-12-2010 02:21
Giovanni S. Crisi

Waiting for a reply to the message I left on their voicemail. Thanks.
Parent - - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 10-10-2010 06:45 Edited 10-10-2010 06:48
Hi Rangerod!

Here's a .pdf document you may find interesting since it's published by Special metals who currently produce many types of "Inconel" and it's associated alloys... I recommend you scroll down to page 26 in the .pdf to look for "Dissimilar Metals" and read on:

http://www.specialmetalswelding.com/publica/joining.pdf

In this .pdf, scroll down to page 24 where it begins to cover dissimilar welding:

http://www.specialmetalswelding.com/publica/welding1.pdf

Here's another interesting article from the Nickel Development Institute:

http://www.nickelinstitute.org/index.cfm/ci_id/3286/la_id/1/document/1/re_id/0

This is the name of the company now which makes "Inconel" and it's wide, diverse family of alloys used in just as many different applications and this is their contact info page:

http://www.specialmetals.com/contact.php

Here is a page loaded with links to all of Special Metals different companies and divisions worldwide:

http://www.specialmetals.com/companies.php

Finally, here is Special Metals Welding products Company website:

http://www.specialmetalswelding.com/

This is their Global contacts links for all of their Welding products:

http://www.specialmetalswelding.com/contacts/contacts/contacts.htm

You may also want to check out this forum these folks have:

http://www.specialmetalswelding.com/contacts/weldfrm.htm

Now you'll probably read from some other folks that a 309 filler can be used instead, but unless we know specifically what your application is and the intended service conditions, none of us can give you a "silver bullet" type answer which will refer you to one specific filler metal for your application... So go ahead and contact these folks and they'll help you sort out all of the particulars for your specific application and give you very sound advice. ;) I hope these links are helpful to both you and anyone else that could use them. ;)

Respectfully,
Henry
Parent - By rangerod (**) Date 10-12-2010 02:18
Hello Henry

I would like to provide more info but unfortunately I can not. Thank you for the information I just did not know where to start looking. Lets see where this goes.

Rod
Parent - - By kcd616 (***) Date 10-10-2010 18:55
What process are you using to weld it TIG, stick, MIG or?
When I have TIG weld Inconel to SS it was 316 or 308 and I used 316 ELC rod.
I hope that helps.

Sincerely,
Kent
Parent - - By rangerod (**) Date 10-10-2010 22:51
The process will be TIG. Again, I appreciate the assistance reveiced from the forum members.

Rod
Parent - By texasrigwelder (**) Date 10-12-2010 04:14
I was always taught Inc it out wen welding Inc to anything always use the higher quality filler rod
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