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- - By tjrishel Date 04-14-2011 02:45
I have found a contraction bewteen the two standards even though the 2010 editdion of section II, part A states that SA-517 is identical with A517-06.

Ti content for SA-517-grB (2010 ed) is heat 0.01-0.03 & production 0.01-0.04.

Ti content for A-517-06-grB is heat 0.01-0.04 & production 0.01-0.05.

I have recently received MTR's from the mill with Ti content of 0.40.  This plate was ordered as SA-517-grB!

I and the mill both though the two standards were identical.

Any suggestions?

Thank you.
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 04-14-2011 11:45 Edited 04-14-2011 11:47
You didn't say what code you're fabricating to. However, almost all of them at this time accept the 06 of which you are compliant with the info you provided.
You also didn't say what edition the MTR has certified.
If its the 2010 see if you can get them to change the date based upon non compliance with one and compliance with the other. Nothing in the code states you have to use the latest and greatest material specs. In fact just the opposite. If this were not the case there'd be a whole lotta fabricators out there having to dump inventory with every new code edition.
The only glitch might possibly be that manufacturers are required to manufacture materials to the latest. But I am not sure this requirement exists. You shoul dbe able to work it out with the manufacturer.
Parent - - By tjrishel Date 04-14-2011 15:43
Fabricating to ASME VII-1.  MTR's state ther are compliant to ASTM A517-06 Gr B and ASME SA-517 Gr B 2007/08 add, but is not upto ASME spec.  Looks like ASME has an error in table 1 of there SA-517 spec.

Any idea were in ASME VII-1 it would state that we can use ASTM-06 material?
Parent - By js55 (*****) Date 04-14-2011 16:31
I am assuming you're talking about Section VIII. Try UG-10.
Parent - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 04-15-2011 13:18
There is a Giude line for Acceptable ASTM Editions look it up in the table of contents.
Within that it says SA-517 is identical except for Grades a,b,e,f,j,p
Parent - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 04-14-2011 18:06 Edited 04-14-2011 18:09
gonna look at this when i get to work....nice call.
Did you check thickness adjustments if any.
All the foot notes etc?

i got hung up on a foot note once, the Material did not report Reduction of area, but just before i rejected it i read the foot note and it said ...Reduction of area is to be performed, but not recorded unless Po requires.
Parent - By tjrishel Date 04-14-2011 20:01
My bad I was refering to SEction VIII-1.  It turns out there is an error in section II, part A.  The Ti content for ASME SA-517-grB (2010 ed) should be heat 0.01-0.04 & production 0.01-0.05.  I just received confirmation from the Secretary, BPV Committee on Materials (II).

Thanks you for your help.
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