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- - By 46.00 (****) Date 03-29-2012 22:42
Recently received this email:

How to turn a reinforcing saddle into a cowboy hat
They got most of ’em on right…
I guess the details were lost in translation.
Some quality QC work? I can’t believe it made it all the way through welding, blasting and painting.
Parent - - By G.S.Crisi (****) Date 03-29-2012 22:52 Edited 04-02-2012 21:08
In my opinion, they welded the reinforcing plate to the nozzle first. This is a fillet weld. When it contracted after cooling down, it pushed the plate to its present position.
They should have welded the plate first to the vessel and then to the nozzle. 
The hat is white, so the obvious deduction is that it belongs to the good guy. Good guys always wear white hats, bad guys wear black hats.
Those of you who are over 70, like me, remember Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, Bill Elliott, Gary Cooper, John Wayne etc. etc.? Good old times!

Giovanni S. Crisi
Sao Paulo - Brazil

PS written in April 2: I forgot of the most important of all of them: the Lonely Ranger.
Parent - - By rick harnish (***) Date 03-30-2012 03:31
LOL!!!! Sweet joke! Ive been tempted, but have never done something like this to anyone.
Parent - By rick harnish (***) Date 03-30-2012 03:34
The inspector was at the bar, apparently.
Parent - By 803056 (*****) Date 03-30-2012 03:58
Excellent Giovanni!

I remember them!

Al
Parent - By qcrobert (***) Date 03-30-2012 14:55
I still have my silver Hop Along Cassidy bracelet from 1954!

QCRobert
Parent - - By Sourdough (****) Date 03-30-2012 03:36
That right there is simply amazing!
Parent - - By Shane Feder (****) Date 03-30-2012 13:22
My only comment is _ WTF ?????
Parent - By Shane Feder (****) Date 03-30-2012 13:36
Obviously some great QC - how could it get to blast and paint without a QC release (leak test of saddle) as per code requirements ?
On second thoughts, maybe someone made an "executive decision" and decided that it didn't need testing
Scary but good for a laugh if it is not installed near your home,
Cheers,
Shane
Parent - By tigrooter (**) Date 03-31-2012 22:27
Glad I don't work on that job! It's got to be a joke.
Parent - By ozniek (***) Date 04-01-2012 05:12
Hi

Here in Ozzie land the authorities encourage everone to wear a hat when going out into the sun. Maybe this is the next step... Insist that even the vessels need to wear a hat! Maybe some of the other vessels on site wear girlie hats, but this vessel is clearly MACHO.

Regards
Niekie
Parent - By fschweighardt (***) Date 04-02-2012 10:25
There is a vessel in Houston that has a similar reinforcement method, its right out in the open so you can see it.
- - By weldwade (***) Date 03-30-2012 19:00
Wow!!! That is a new one for sure. Looks good even though its wrong.lol
Parent - - By Cumminsguy71 (*****) Date 04-01-2012 02:20
Now that thar is a 10 gallon hat even Hoss would like to have!!!
Parent - - By Tommyjoking (****) Date 04-01-2012 08:27
I am putting that one on my phone so it is handy.   Unfreakinbeleviable .
Parent - - By commonarc (**) Date 04-01-2012 23:06
Location?  State?  Country?
Parent - By hillbilly delux (***) Date 04-02-2012 01:09 Edited 04-02-2012 14:13
You just gave your self away. Your looking to penn it to a state or mexican? Aws part b it s the same guy. So funny that as a tweeker you really thought that somebody really f'd up.  Shows your knowledge of the field.
- - By hillbilly delux (***) Date 04-02-2012 00:59
Hold up here look at the other ones anyone with a right brain and a left hand has got to know it was made that way for a reason.  Maybe I missed out on the real joke?  But I want to know the real reason why it was fabricated that way?  Any of you have a clue? I heve never seen that before and I am curious.
Parent - - By kilgoretrout (*) Date 04-02-2012 17:06
I was waiting to see if someone with more knowledge was going to respond to this thread but here goes... I believe that these are legitimate pads used for weld/nozzle reinforcement.  I have seen this type before but have never had to fabricate one and without some in depth research into the code I couldn't tell you the exact reason behind them but believe they are variations on the same theme.  I may be wrong but as I said I have seen this in the past and do not believe that this is a major malfunction by the fabricator.
Parent - - By Sourdough (****) Date 04-06-2012 04:16
I can see how the reinforcement would be at the branch going into the vessel, but what reinforces the vessel at the branch going into it?

That's my main question....because I also think that there must be some rhyme and reason to this kind of apron. :cool:
Parent - By 803056 (*****) Date 04-06-2012 04:26
It must be API, they do everything backwards. :twisted:

Al
Parent - - By Duke (***) Date 04-06-2012 12:31
Crotch plate... is it a water line?
Parent - - By Paladin (***) Date 04-07-2012 13:34
This is how rumors start but I'll take a guess.
It's a pressure vessel and the reinforcement skirts were welded at the factory and the whole thing tested. Then it was set on the legs in the field and they were welded only to the skirts, not putting any weld on the vessel.
Floyd
Parent - - By fschweighardt (***) Date 04-08-2012 17:27
Crotch plates seem to be popular with the large dia. water pipe bunch.  However, the original cowboy hat is not exactly the same as these crotch plates.  It is possible that it works the same as the traditional flat crotch plates, and then again, maybe not.
Parent - By 46.00 (****) Date 04-08-2012 23:21
Crotch plates are usually three piece and on Low pressurised water lines etc.

Why the need for reinforcement pads on all the other branch welds and not this one?
Parent - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 04-09-2012 01:16
Either one loads the reinforcement perpendicular to the width of the plate. For the joint to distort, it has to bend the reinforcement "the hard way".

With regard to 46,00's comment, I would expect the choice of the 2 flat plate or 1 curved plat V/S the 3 plate design will depend on the difference in the relative diameter of the branch to the main pipe.
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