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- - By TRC (***) Date 08-11-2012 15:19
Hey, will a new Maxstar 150 run off of any run of the mill 6000 watt generator? How about 6010? Thanks - Ted
Parent - - By P3T3R ST33L (*) Date 08-11-2012 21:44
Provided you have the correct plug type on the generator it will. I own a Maxstar 150 STL and have done plenty of DC tig on a regular 115volt 15amp outlet. As far as burning stick electrodes you will need a few more amps to burn them without poping breakers constantly if you run 1/8" or larger arc rods.It seems to me that you will need at least a 20amp outlet to burn arc rods with minimal breaker issues. I believe thats why Miller put the plug style on this machine that they did because it was designed for use in the new style 20amp outlts. I have an assortment of adapter plug pig tails so I can plug into a variety of outlets that I may run across. I mainly use mine as a highly portable DC tog machine for getting into restaraunt kitchens for doing SST repairs. I can plug right into thier wall outlets and get the job done with minimal set up and equipment beimg drug in. I modified a hand cart to hold a bottle or 2 of inert gas with a small rack on the back that i have the Maxstar mounted on its a pretty slick little set up. I will post a pic when I have more time. I just need a more effective backing purge set up.
Parent - - By Sberry (***) Date 08-12-2012 14:12
No 6010, use 6011. It will run them on 20A as it will run 3/32 lo-hi. Only time I have tripped was with long circuits, 200 ft at end of a barn and if I turn it down a pinch and limp a little it will work, never tripped it with the 11 but a couple times with the lo hi but I had it dialed up to toasty. I have heard of guys using 6010 but I am sure they were dragging the rod around, not aggressive whip and pause which for my case is the reason I use it.It will run on a 6000, if I had to use it on a gen set I would tend to use 240 if possible, could use 1/8 lo hi.

  When I was at one of the barn jobs found another light 20A 240 circuit, after I connect to that no more issue despite the distance.
Parent - - By Lawrence (*****) Date 08-12-2012 14:49
The lad should be on the cover of Welding Journal!
Parent - - By TRC (***) Date 08-12-2012 21:37
Thanks for taking time to respond. I was just looking to have a 13lb back-up machine in case my SA or TB decides to stop cooperating. The work I'm doing at this time is all small diameter gas distribution work. All the crew trucks carrier a 6K generator to power plastic fusion equipment.  I heard that the new 150's would burn 6010 which doesn't sound very accurate according to some research I have done since I posted this. 6011 is not an option because of the WPS.  Ted
Parent - - By TRC (***) Date 08-13-2012 21:11
I'm currently qualified for four different gas companies so I have four different welding manuals in the truck. It's easy to mix up info that's in one manual with info that's in another in my head so I thought I'd do a little research today by taking a more indepth look at the WPS of the company I'm currently working for. Lo and behold way over in the corner of the reverse page under "other"  it says 6011 and 7011 are allowed under this WPS!!!!
PROBLEM solved, I have a Maxstar 152 in inventory from the 90's so all I have to do is make a 30X 50 amp adapter, pick up a can of 6011 and give it a whirl- Thanks again- Ted

And remember all you Big Dogs- it's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts.
Parent - - By 357max (***) Date 08-13-2012 22:37
try the Lincoln Fleetweld 35LS (low slag). Alot of the 6011s are designed with lots of flux to stabilize the arc on low open circuit voltage ac only (buzz boxes) machines
Parent - By P3T3R ST33L (*) Date 08-14-2012 03:29
I was going to say when hooked up to a good power supply  I  have burned 5/32" stoody super 20 and 5/32" lo hy as well as cast  iron rods. Not sure why it wouldn't burn 6010 or 11.
Parent - - By TRC (***) Date 08-14-2012 20:30
Thanks Max, I looked that up today. There sure are a lot of different 6011's. LS only comes in 50lb cans so I may have to go with what ever I can find in a 5 or 10lber.
Parent - - By 357max (***) Date 08-14-2012 23:28
If you have E6010; try it. I believe the Maxstar has a cv foot on the volt amp output curve that provides a "dig"/arc force. The European designed inverters usually have a pretty steep v/a  curve without or much of a cv foot for dig/arc force. The Europeans use a lot of rutile ie EXX12,13 or 14's and not much cellulose. Therefore their inverter designs are or have a bit different arc characteristic vs US designed.
Parent - By Northweldor (***) Date 08-15-2012 12:57 Edited 08-15-2012 13:00
Tried an Esab 150LTS the other day, and while it doesn't have the duty cycle of the Maxstar, which would be required by the OP, it burns  several brands of 6010 with no problems.  About 1/2 the price, and discreetly labeled, on the bottom, (very small label) "Made in PRC"! (3 yr. guarantee).
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