So true. My wife has insurance but my concern is will it meet the government standards and if not will her company pay the extra cost to bring it up to what they(gub'ment) thinks is best or will they just drop insurance and we'll be searching for our new gub'ment plan? Or is her plan considered a "Cadillac" plan in which case the company will drop our insurance down to a lower coverage plan. Then throw in the fact that the employers will be paying more towards premiums (an employee pay raise in my eyes) in which case will it be better just to drop employee benefits and pay a yearly fine? They have almost 400 people where she works so it will affect them for certain.

Applebee's was one of the restaurants that I've read about concerned as they have part timers that are/were less than 40 hour per week, young kids, college kids that juggle schedules. They were talking about the "New Full Time" hours being 30 hours a week due to the healthcare law. A tax on your family, that's for sure because constitutionally they cannot force us to do what they are forcing us to do unless disguised as something else...like a "tax". Might as well go to the National Archives, crack the glass on the case storing the constitution, drop it on the floor and take a whiz on it. Supreme Court, "SOLD" to the highest bidder, one more crusty old fart kicks the bucket while.....you know who is in office....and we're fooked for sure.

Going to be some interesting times in the future. Have to give my aging relatives a call this weekend, I've got an Aunt that is quite knowledgeable on the healthcare as she and my Uncle are in that age group fearing they will be led off to slaughter at the next sign of the flu that they have! For some reason this just don't work in my head. The gub'ment is trying to make it better, so, do the insurance, MAKE them get it. Minimum wage I was lucky to have $2000 left over in a year let alone have it for required insurance, I mean an extra tax(as they cannot make me do this against my will). Now throw in that in order for my company to keep me they knock me down to 29 hours a week max which is, a whopping, $210.25 before Uncle Sam krinkles your nads. $841/month, take away your $400/month apartment or should I say, hovel and then taxes and you have $350 left maybe for food, electric, your healthcare tax....or healthcare? So, now, why this don't work in my head. We now drop hundreds or thousands more into poverty, or deeper into poverty because we have cut the hours(I know blame the big bad corporate right) and now we have thousands more in need of, you guessed it, welfare, food stamps. If I may, sounds like a giant poop sandwich and we're all being forced to eat the whole thing!

Canada, no Tommy, I've got two places I would rather move to if the need arose! Both I could care less what I did for a living, I could raise sheep or shovel shyte or drive a trash truck, would not matter to me, being in either one of those places would put a smile on my face for the next 40 years! Get the kids gone from home and I just might make the leap! Went from mechanic to welding shop owner with no 'perience, next logical step would be a business owner in another country right! Besides Canada has to much of the awful white garbage...yuk, a thousand times yuk!!

I will never forget seeing a news clip with Nancy Pelosi, standing in front of a bunch of news people saying, "Lets just get this Health Care Bill signed, we'll figure it out later".  I knew things were going to be bad right then and there.  Watching Romney and the Republican Party self destruct during the last two elections made something clear to me.  The far Right and far Left cannot control either political party because they leave out the center of the country.  During this election I got the feeling the country was picking the lesser of two evils.  Just my opinion, for what it's worth.

The worst part about the whole matter is that this unconstitutional legislation made it through 5 collectivist Justices on the Supreme Court.

Well Tommy, my man.....maybe that president oughta invest in his own private ER, right there in the white house. He could call it obamacade, cause if he don't barracade himself in.....well, how many people who go from making a good living to destitution will want to get to him in a bad way? I'm just saying....I'm not paying crapola, nor am I afraid to go to the pokey for insubordination. There are more people like me out there than folks realize. It will flop, big time, and put the biggest dent in our system than any president has done for many moons.

But.....we Americans are pretty much sheep anymore. Nobody stands up. Those days are long gone. I'm building a space ship.

It is my opinion that we crossed the point of no return as a country with the passage of Obamacare, Frank Dodd act, and recent revisions of the NDAA.
While that may sound like and indictment of Obama, it is not. Those bills would not have happened without the last 30 years of federal laws that set the stage for them, along with the ever increasing federal power grab.

The feds cannot control a person who thinks for themselves and is self sufficient. That's what it's more about in my opinion.

Its good to hear that someone else thinks national health care is a good plan but, has been twisted into some evil scheme to destroy America.We have medicare,medicaid,the V.A.system and dont forget workers comp.These are working goverement plans.Except for the V.A. they are full of abuse and fraud.Not really sure  what the ratio would be if a study was done ,but i bet at least 50/50 with crooked docters giving treatment to insurance fraud claims.A lot of it is greed but some is fear of lawers and lawsuits.If our elected dirtbags spent the time to write a working policy to elimanate fraud and bring the almighty insurnace companys under control, then we would have a chance.I have had young people want to work and learn the trade,but at 22 dollars a 100 i cant really afford the comp.