Hello bruce69 I am pretty sure solicitation is only applicable in a broad term. I teach at a community college in Washington state and though I have certainly been known to promote our program when I speak of various educational opportunities I am really promoting education as a whole, after all, we never really stop learning.
Whether an individual learns from association(watching and doing with family, friends, or otherwise), starting out as a "grunt" helping out and working their way up in a shop or in the field, some form of an apprenticeship, trade/tech school, community college, private training facilities, etc. it's all about preparing and learning to provide yourself with a jump-off point to an often lucrative and very rewarding career. I agree with has already been said for value in education, regardless of the mode, participation generally ensures some form of reliability, conviction, and willingness to become bigger and better. Just a few thoughts from my perspective. Best regards, Allan
Bruce,
I think you are referring to Len's style. No, it is not a solicitation. Len is a little hard to follow some times.
Means well and has a lot of great background if you can grasp his thought train.
Have a Great Day, Brent
I think now a days the 2 yr. technical programs are the way to go, it worked our great for me and it doesn't have the huge cost and time burden of a 4 yr. degree that may or may not get you a skill.
I feel Americans need to get our hands dirty and start making things again, and fixing what breaks- and its takes skilled labor to do that. Not someone who sits behind a computer writing documents. But that's just me.
College of Oceaneering AS degree in Marine Technology- Underwater Inspection/ Spec Tech Graduate 1996.
OK. Then by all means, I agree with him. Gone are the days of getting some Liberal Arts degree like Political Science and getting a good job after college. Now you get that degree and have $50,000 in debt and no job. Even my wife went back and got her AA degree in Respiratory Therapy after having a next-to-worthless four year bachelor's degree. My only recommendation is to stay away from the for-profit schools. Stick to the accredited State schools. I'm not saying all for-profit schools are bad. However, a lot of them are.
Hello bruce69, you bring up a very valid point regarding student debt for schooling. That is why I do promote/push a program such as ours, or apprenticeship programs, and the like.
Sure, you may/will incur some debt in the process of educating yourself, yet the returns are generally immediate and much less long term. I feel the key to anyone's education is some research on their own part and assessment of the program(s) that they plan on getting into.
Look at the performance of the school's programs. Check with employers in or around the area that they purport to have hiring their grads and students for an accurate picture of expected program outcomes. If possible sit down and talk with current students or graduates if you can determine who they are. This sort of process can be applied to any type of school whether it be state-run, an apprenticeship, or a for-profit training facility, in other words don't simply willy-nilly sign up for something without checking it out first and "doing your homework".
Forgive me bruce69 for tagging all of this onto a response to you, but I felt it was an ideal time to put some of this information forth for some of those who might be following or happen onto this thread. You have certainly brought up some of the right questions that people should consider and why. Best regards, Allan
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