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- - By billz (*) Date 04-14-2006 20:16
I don’t see any preheat requirement for ASTM A514 steel in table 3.2, but it is in the 1980 version of D1.1. Anyone know why A514 isn’t listed?
Parent - - By swnorris (****) Date 04-17-2006 11:10
The limitations paragraph with regard to maximum yield strength parameters didn't exist in the 80 code. I skipped from code to code, and it also didn't exist in the 92 code, and both editions show A514 in the preheat tables. The next edition I have is the 98 code, which has the addition of the yield strength limitations: "code is not intended to be used for steels with a minimum specified yield strength greater than 100 ksi", and since A514 has a yield of 100-130 ksi, my guess is that because it has the potential to and most likely will exceed the 100 ksi limitation, it was omitted. Also, from at least the 98 code to the 2006, no other steel has been listed that had the potential to exceed the 100 ksi range.

Go to this link and scroll to page 50 for welding and preheat information for A514:

http://www.intlsteel.com/PDFs/products/duracorravail.pdf
Parent - By jwright650 (*****) Date 04-17-2006 11:25
Scott,
I saw that limitation first in the scope of D1.1:1996 1.1.1(1)


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"1.1.1 Limitations. The code is not intended to be used for the following:

(1) Steels with a minimum specified yield strength greater than 100ksi."

John Wright
Parent - - By billz (*) Date 04-27-2006 22:18
Thanks for that web page, it did have the info. Is there any current AWS specification that covers A514 steel, ie: 100 ksi plus yield?

Bill Z
Parent - - By swnorris (****) Date 04-28-2006 13:24
Bill,

AWS D14.3, The Specification for Welding Earthmoving, Construction, and Agricultural Equipment might be what you're looking for. T1 steel is a trade name for A514 steel, and is often used for certain components of construction equipment that need high strength, such as the arms supporting the bucket of a front end loader.

http://www.aws.org/pr/dec13-2005.html

Here's something I found that might be helpful:

T-1 is a quenched and tempered steel. Welding quenched and tempered steels may be difficult due its high strength and hardenability. The base steel around the weld is rapidly being heated and cooled during welding, resulting in a heat affected zone with high hardness. Hydrogen in the weld metal may diffuse into the heat affected zone and cause hydrogen embrittlement, resulting in delayed underbead or toe cracking outside of the weld. To minimize heat affected zone cracking:

1. Use a low hydrogen consumable, like a -H4 or -H2.
2. Preheat. This slows the cooling rate. Note that excessive preheat may anneal the base material.
3. Slow cool. More time at elevated temperatures allows the dissolved hydrogen to escape.
4. Peen the weld beads to minimize residual weld stresses.
5. Use the lowest strength filler metal meeting design requirements. If making fillet welds, the weld can be oversized to give the specified strength
6. Minimize weld restraint.
Parent - - By billz (*) Date 04-28-2006 17:20
good advise, thanks

Bill
Parent - - By Scott Smith Date 04-28-2006 18:27
If I'm correct, this may be usefull info but do not quote me on this - isn't A514 have a requirement to wait 24hrs before final inspection if welded?
Parent - By jwright650 (*****) Date 04-28-2006 18:38
Yes, See 6.11 D1.1:2006
John Wright
Parent - - By henri (*) Date 04-28-2006 21:06
Check Annex M.

Annex M is not a part of D1.1 but is included for information purposes only.
Parent - - By swnorris (****) Date 05-03-2006 20:33
Bill, John, Tito, Henri,

I stumbled across the minimum preheat requirements for A514 in the 2006 D1.1. See Table 4.9, Code Approved Base Metals and Filler Metals Requiring Qualification per Section 4. This is a new table to D1.1.
Parent - By billz (*) Date 05-03-2006 21:33
Sure enough, there it is in that table. Thanks
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