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- - By tompit9 (***) Date 08-25-2007 22:42
can you run a mig welder off a SA200 and what mig would do the job? Thanks
Parent - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 08-26-2007 03:39
I think You would want a  Lincoln LN-25, Miller 8VS,12VS [or the older model, I forget the number],  Hobart Hefty or a similar "across the arc" powered voltage sensing feeder, and dual shield wire.
Parent - - By makeithot (***) Date 08-26-2007 17:16
As dave has said any of the above will work.
Parent - - By TozziWelding (**) Date 08-26-2007 18:40
Wire runs like crap on CC, just my 2 cents.
Parent - - By makeithot (***) Date 08-27-2007 01:04
The machine has to be cabable of CV in order for these units to function.
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 08-27-2007 04:30
The voltage sensing machines are SUPPOSED to work with a CC or "drooper", but only in spray transfer, or with dual shield. There are other voltage sensing feeders besides the "across the arc" versions, but the problem is they generally require 115VAC input, and an SA 200 has DC aux. power.
Parent - - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 08-27-2007 07:01 Edited 08-27-2007 09:33
Hi Dave! A Miller S-32S or an SL will work since all it requires is 10 to 50 open circuit volts DC from the SA-200... So Tompit9, all you need is to use one of those Miller S32-S or SL's, and use either GMAW (Solid wire) in the spray transfer mode or Flux Cored wire for any out of position welding whether it's gas shileded like a "Dual Shield" FCAW-G wire or a self shielding wire like lincoln's "Innershield" line of FCAW-S wires. Just make darn sure that you have the CC/CV toggle switch on CC and you'll have a blast!!! ;) :) :)

I personally have used these voltage sensing wire feeders in the field many times and they really deposit very decent welds especially when running both types of FCAW wire electrodes... These wire feeders also run GMAW spray transfer pretty decently, but you better have a real steady tip to work distance or else the spray transfer will sometimes become erratic and, it's generally not recommended that one runs GMAW Spray arc transfer in the field unless there is very good protection such as an enclosure from the wind... Finally, one is limited in using GMAW spray without the pulse option to the 1G & 1, 2F positions only.
Hope this helps ;) 

Respectfully,
Henry
Parent - - By Lawrence (*****) Date 08-27-2007 11:38
Tompit

Also keep in mind that if you are going to use that voltage sensing feeder on your CC engine drive that your statis will change per AWS D1.1 Section 3.1.2 and you will no longer be able to run prequilified WPS.  When running GMAW or FCAW on CC power all your procedures will need to be qualified per section 4.
Parent - - By jwright650 (*****) Date 08-27-2007 12:52
.....in addition to Lawrence's post...AWS D1.1:2006 paragraph 3.2.4
Parent - - By Lawrence (*****) Date 08-27-2007 12:55
Thanks John.

3.2.4  was what I should have indicated. 
Parent - By jwright650 (*****) Date 08-27-2007 13:15
You were in the right church...I just helped you get to the exact pew ;-)
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