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- - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-23-2007 06:37
I have looked high and low for a 3/8'' drive drill with a ac/dc switch and from what i've been told they don't make them anymore does anyone have 1 for sale or know where i can get 1 i prefer makita or milwakee
Parent - - By shorthood2006 (****) Date 11-23-2007 14:44
shad, from what i have learned..todays drills are all ac. im not up on the old drills. Pawn shop and farm auctions /flea markets is a good place to start.
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-23-2007 22:07
yeah i noticed looks like i'll have to get me a good inverter and a ac drill i cant find nuthing. And if you're talking to me about pics i'm not sure what pics you are referring to
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 11-24-2007 03:28
Shad, there is a DeWalt 1/2" drill that has a rocker trigger for forward and reverse. I am pretty sure this is an AC / DC model. It is not variable speed. The motor & handle is the same as on the impact wrench I have, that is marked AC / DC.
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-24-2007 06:07
thanks dave 1/2'' is a lil big for screwing tin but if its all i can get my hands on well then so be it i'll see what i can find on the web sure cant find anything in makita
Parent - - By 52lincoln (***) Date 11-23-2007 17:14 Edited 11-23-2007 17:16
just look on the side,must all drills are ac/dc,it will say it on the side.i learned that the hard way,went through some cheap grinders.if it has curved line over a straight line,that means it will do both.
Parent - - By shorthood2006 (****) Date 11-23-2007 18:29
send me some pics...still havent got them.
Parent - By 52lincoln (***) Date 11-23-2007 22:48
man i sent them twice,i cant figure it out.
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-23-2007 22:10
yeah i know i been checking them every1 i pick up is 120V AC Only might have to try n pick up a ranger 8 cheap just to keep working in this feed lot oil field has died in south texas theres not alot going on just about ready to sell out and go singlke hand hanging iron or somethin of the sort sure as hell cant travel with my young un in the shape he's in
Parent - - By shorthood2006 (****) Date 11-24-2007 01:02
i will find you a ranger 8 cheap.. the last one i had i gave 800. it ran and welded fine.1200 hours.
Parent - - By theweldor (*) Date 11-24-2007 01:07
I was under the impression as long as it wasn't variable speed it would work on dc. Not to say I'm the brightest light bulb though.
Parent - By shorthood2006 (****) Date 11-24-2007 01:09
but most drills are variable speed.arent they.
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-24-2007 05:47
that would be great darren but i just dont have the extra right now hell i cant even make my house payment but still keep pluggin along and trying it's all i can do right now
Parent - - By J Hall (***) Date 11-25-2007 20:31
Most Milwaukee drill are AC/DC
Parent - By 52lincoln (***) Date 11-25-2007 21:03
thats what i was,thinking.dewalt to,the bigger ones n e way
Parent - - By shorthood2006 (****) Date 11-25-2007 23:43
i learned somthing today! i really didnt know that about drills
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-26-2007 06:48
any idea on what size inverter i ned to run a 3/8'' drill i can hook it strait to the battery on the machine and run it jus not sure how big of an inverter i need
Parent - - By 52lincoln (***) Date 11-26-2007 07:10
what's the inverter 4?
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-26-2007 07:13
to hook up to my machine or truck battery so i can run a 3/8'' drill to screw tin on shades i'm repairing at a feed lot
Parent - - By 52lincoln (***) Date 11-26-2007 07:15
i think they,make ac/dc screw guns.mine is dewalt and i plug it right to my sa 200.
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-26-2007 07:19
whats the number on that screw gun everything i find is ac only and they might last an hr if i play my cards right been there done that
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-27-2007 03:27
any luck on gettin that part number from you on your dewalt screw gun i looked on the web site they dont list it niether does makita hell nobody has ac/dc rated tools listed except for grinders and i have 5 of them already
Parent - - By shorthood2006 (****) Date 11-27-2007 00:56
when i was in the rigyard in okc, alot of the welders had 200's with an inverter bolted underneath the gas tank.ran a plug in to the factory plug on face of the machine. really worked good. machine didnt idle up to run the grinder either.
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-27-2007 02:08
Thats exactly what i want to do but i dont know how big of an inverter i need i saw 1 once and it was in an electrical box mounted to the top of the machine looked real nasty all i need is the amount of wattage of the inverter isnt there anyone you one or know of that can tell you this please help i am desperate with out a drill i'm out of work and thats all there is to do is repair shades as for that machine i asked you about i understand if you dont want it no hard feelings
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 11-27-2007 02:39
Shad, to find watts, just multiply the amps x volts. A 5 amp drill at 120 volts = 600 watts.
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-27-2007 02:48
so then i should be good to go with an inverter w 1000 or better watts right Dave i found a dewalt screw gun in a pawn shop today guy told me 40.00 but once again it's ac only and well for 80 i can get a makita brand new i have a 700w inverter for my laptop but dont think thats big enuff for what i need i'll find 1 worth 1000 or better watts and see what i can get it for i know it wont be cheap looks like a run to San Antonio is what i need yall need anything from there lol
Parent - - By DLWood (*) Date 11-27-2007 14:06
Shad,
I have a small generator you can use for a few days to make some $ if you need to. I'm up here in Helotes. All the drills at Home Depot were AC only. Glad you all brought this up itherwise I'd have some burnt up tools. You might call the Milwaukee repair shop on 281, they might have one or know of one.
DLWood
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-27-2007 18:02
Thanks i might take you up on that i looked at home depot and lowes both have ac only i even called the makita repair place on 35 by splash town they dont have nuthin i been lookin at inverters i was thinking marine type because of the weather and all but wow cheapest i found was around 259 for a 2000 watt marine inverter i looked at non marine and for another 100 i'll only need to by 1 instead of 1  everytime it rains or i could just put my doors back on and take 1 off everyday to put oil in the machine damned if ya do and damned if ya dont go figure
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-27-2007 18:06
well it wont be long and i'm gonna ned a new 7'' grinder most i have found are 15 amps so if i get a 2000 watt inverter i should be good to go right dave sorry if i sound stupid or am being a pain in the neck over this i jus want to be sure so i dont spend money on sumthin i dont need
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 11-28-2007 04:02
Shad, Keep in mind that that 15 amp grinder will need 150 amps at 12 volts to feed the inverter. You will need a really big battery and alternator to make that work. A marine invertor is NOT WATERPROOF. They need to be mounted someplace dry and with air circulation for cooling. Vibration won't do them any good either. For the grinder I would scout the pawn shops for a Black & Decker / DeWalt "Wildcat". They are AC/DC and really built well. The 700 watt inverter should run a screwgun or most 3/8" drills, but You need to feed it with #6 wire or larger. What is on Your machine to charge the battery - alternator or generator?
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-28-2007 04:29
all m5 of my grinders are ac/dc i need the inverter to run drills and screwguns i found a 2500 watt 5000 continous for 189 free shipping i have an alternator on my machine
Parent - - By shorthood2006 (****) Date 11-27-2007 03:38
radioshack, northern tool, harbor freight sell them. I probably would buy one from Northern Tool. check the wattage on your biggest tool. they have aout 5 different sizes..from $29.00 to 300.00. they work great.
Parent - By 52lincoln (***) Date 11-27-2007 04:24
how would you set that system up?with inverter i mean.
Parent - By 52lincoln (***) Date 11-27-2007 06:20
Do you just hook it up to your battery?I guess they have and on/off button.Never payed any attention to one.Then if you want you could hide it under your hood,and run a pigtail out.They have all kinds of them at nothern tools.com.Thats where i would go to.They are like sears,easy return policy.
Parent - - By 52lincoln (***) Date 11-27-2007 04:23
man im sorry i looked at my dewalt,and makita screw gun.they are both ac only.i used them with a hobart i had.the 110 is ac on champion 10000
Parent - - By gshuma (**) Date 11-27-2007 16:15
Those small tools use what is called a series type motor. It's called universal because it operates on both AC and DC. HOWEVER...over the years they have been designed to use only AC. If you try to use DC first you need the rated voltage of 125 volts. If you want to hold that tool and pull the trigger first make sure your life insurance is paid up.
I just use a 125 dollar chineese generator. Make sure it has enough wattage for your tool and you will be OK.
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-27-2007 18:04
is there a way i could get you to send me a pic of that generator or maybe a make and part number i dont have a welding bed on my rig jus what it came with from factory so all my space is gone i,m sure i can figure out sumthin might jus put everything back on a trailer with the price of fuel the way it is
Parent - - By Justin O (**) Date 11-28-2007 04:05
Get a miller and you wont have to worry about any of that crap.
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-28-2007 04:30
why would i wanna waste my money on that junk
Parent - - By norsky63 (**) Date 11-29-2007 00:17
running a drill on a inverter will only work if its short term. It will only be as good as your battery and alt.  If your only going to run a drill for a minute or two every half hour you would be ok. but if you need to run it for a long time i woul try and find a ac/dc drill or run a generator
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-29-2007 01:52
i dont have room on the truck for a generator i'm gettin frustrated and am just about ready to sell out what a paint in the ass to run a 40.00$ drill i cant afford a generator right now cheapest i've found was around 800 whats the point of having a welding machine if all you can do with it is weld might as well just sell out and by a ranger 8 for side work and go single hand and i csnt find an ac/dc drillanywhere including on the net sorry i sound like i'm whining just mad is all i been looking for a resolution to this problem for 2 weeks
Parent - - By Justin O (**) Date 11-29-2007 07:18
Ill lone you a machine (miller) how long
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-29-2007 07:35
i have a machine i can borrow jus dont wanna pull a trailer if i dont have too it's my bros ranger 8 but thanks for the offer
Parent - - By shorthood2006 (****) Date 11-29-2007 23:46
shad, i have the cheapest deal ever. i have a hobart machine. same size as the ranger 8. 800 bucks buys it. 200 per month till its paid off. use it for the generator capabilities and weld with it too. i will finance it...i gave 800 and will take 800. 1996 model. 2000 hours.
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-30-2007 02:28
thanks darin but i'm having a hard enuff time making the payments on everythin else cant afford another payment right nowyeah i know it's only 200 a month work is scarse in south texas and the house is 2 months behind and i aint even filed my taxes yet so thanks but i just cant hell i cant even pay last yrs taxes yet used the money to pay bills i'm sure you'll find sum1 to give you at least 1500 for it
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 11-29-2007 04:03
I would think You could run a 6 amp drill from an inverter on Shad's machine for about 2 minutes out of every 10 minutes, any more than that the low output from a stock alternator probably will fall behind. I used an 1800 watt invertor heavily on My sailboat, but I had 6 golf cart batteries and an alternator that put out 130 amps at 1,000 engine rpm, that was a custom setup I built.
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-29-2007 04:50
what if i put a 110 volt amp whatever alternator on the machine its a red face machine i'm sure it dont matter and as for a big battery the battery thats on it has 800 cold cranking amps and like 650 cranking amps came off a drillin rig driller gave it to me its made by continentel
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 11-30-2007 04:15
Shad, a high output alternator needs to turn fast, about 8,000 rpm to put out the rated output, and they don't last at full output. Another problem is the single belt going around 3 pulleys can't deliver enough power and gives a lot of troubble. On the boat I made a 9" 2 grove pulley that ran only the alternator. The belts didn't wear much, but due to heat in the engine compartment they were shot in 2 years. The alternator diodes failed prematurely too. I carried 2 spare alternators and sets of belts. The alternators I used were Powerline 190 amp cold and 165 amp hot rated. These are built in a large Ford style housing with a big bearing at the pulley end. My preference if I was doing it over would be a Leece Nevill 200 amp. This is a much larger unit, not a souped up car alternator.
Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 11-30-2007 04:21
i've ha d so much advice that i think i'll jus use my brothers ranger 8 and go with that i need the money i thought a week in the hospital w ryder wud help me find sumthin but now i have to many ideas thrown at me and no money to do any of them ept get an inverter so ranger 8 here i come gonna try for bout 80 hrs next week
Parent - - By shorthood2006 (****) Date 12-01-2007 15:22
i talked to blattner feedlot construction last week, most of their welding machines(ranger8)size, had over 5000 hours each on them.they will serve your purpose just fine.
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