I have the freedom of speech and opinion so you can try to sue that. I commented on some pics of some welds. I have no idea where they were made and I don't care.
Like I said before if that lot was on my jobsite and I saw that I would ask the welding inspector looking over them what is going on if I was the client's rep.
You're correct that I won't wander onto a jobsite accross the street and start commenting, but if those welds happened on a job I was a client rep or auditor on be guaranteed that crew would stop welding until further notice and until everything was sorted out.
The bigger the bribe the longer the prison sentence. The first time I will just tell the person "I'll forget I heard that". The second time I'll pull out the phone video camera and ask them to ask me again while being recorded.
I will never accept a bribe no matter what my financial situation is. Yes I would decline a bribe of millions of dollars. I would report it to the FBI and IRS and hopefully get a reward.
Money actually earned honestly. I have morals.
Regards,
Bill
I really didnt have a dog in this hunt, but there is something a bit disturbing in your post.
"Bribing is everywhere...very common....it depends on the amount the contractor will offer you....if they offered you millions$$$...then ask yourself if you will always refuse a bribe."
Maybe I'm just reading to much into this, but the way that was worded, it sounds like you have some personal experience in the matter.
I've worked a lot of places in this world, including Asia from which you state your either in or from. I am well familar with attempts at bribing as the one part you got right was it is world wide/everywhere. The thing that always comes to my mind when someone trys that crap, is what else are they hiding? I'm not so worried about the matter in which I have knowledge of, as I will push them to get it fixed, but the attempt at bribing speaks volumes for what kind of person and company they are. It tells me there is likely an unknown factor.
Therein is why even if you don't have morals, you'd have to be an idiot to take a bribe. What else have they hidden? The times that people have tried to bribe me, I've dug in and without a fault, I've come up with something even more severe than the initial problem. Each and every time without fault that has been the case.
My refusal to take a bribe, has earned me being shot at, fistfights, having my tires punctured, and in one case my truck burned among other things, but it will be a cold day in hell before I take a bribe for anything, your honor and integrity are only for sale once, and maybe I am just archaic in thinking, but without those two things, you cannot call yourself an inspector, much less a man.
Maybe bribing is ok with you, but you'd better remember, one day it's going to catch up to you. When it does, you'd better pray to whatever God you worship, if any, that the item didn't get someone or a group of people killed and it can be traced back to you.
At the end of the day, any weld inspector or like person is in effect a public safety officer. Only instead of the short term like PPE, it's the long term safety of a project and or the general public we are looking out for.
My opinion,
Gerald
Gerald
things to tell you
1. Don't get excited easily, I don't accept bribe. I've been invited by our sub-contractor for drink, good lunch in restaurant but I turn down their request because I know that I will face difficulties to accept their work.
2. I like to read newspaper and I found out that bribing is everywhere...which is very common in general. Let me reiterate "I don't accept bribe" bribe is not my bread and butter. I hope you are clear on this issue.
3. Maybe I exaggerate the millions$$$....but common sense, no one will bribe you millions$$$ as a welding inspector. Especially for me as contractor's QC inspector.
But If it happens in your dreams...then think! what these millions can help to improve the situation. You may use the money to get a brilliant consultant like you / and to hire expert contractor to rectify the defective works. But please, let someone handle the millions...and if there are excess money...return it to the contractor or you may advice them to give it to the charity.
Do you have problem with this kind of arrangement?
4. I have not experience being shot. Yes, I live in ASIA... but not in Vietnam. Vietnam War is not my era... there are no people burning vehicle here like what you've experienced...even though we have few Rambo look alike hero in our project.
5. I'm a Roman Catholic. Jesus Christ is my God for your information....that is why bribing is NOT ok with me.
I think you been scoring points lately. Lengthy explanation, advises and opinions you have contributed makes me think that you are the MVP of this forum. No sarcasm!! that's very good. Keep it up!!!
Joey
By CWI555 
Date 02-05-2008 21:31
Edited 02-05-2008 23:43
Never been in Vietnam (never will either), got shot at and had my truck burned in Massachusetts USA. The only time I ever actually got shot was in Venezuela. Never had those kind of problems in Asia, it was mostly just pick pockets and cops looking for lunch money, which about on par for anywhere in the world. As for my comment about "experience with it" You spoke as if you had experienced the issue. I never said you took one.)
As for being offered millions, I live in the real world, when it's going to take a bribe of that magnitude, they'd be more likely just put a bullet in you first, or try than offer you millions to keep your mouth shut. Someone actually does offer you millions, I suggest getting the hell out of there right away. So do I have a problem with "this kind of arrangement?" It'll never happen in reality on that level, therefore no problem. It's a more realistic scenario that they'd try a smear campaign first before resorting to any of the above. Thats reality as I see it. (it happens)
As for scoring points, it's not the intent, there are many here with equal and or better knowledge. The real "mvp's" as you put are folks like Stephan, John Wright, Avald, Al, Joe Cane, and others Past and present.
If you ever think about taking a bribe you had better think about all the ramifications. First and for most people could die, or worse, maimed. It sickens me at the thought of an inspector taking a bribe. Your career as an inspector is over if and when you are found out, not to mention the legal repurcutions that could come from it. You had better add up the cost of taking that bribe and make sure it will cover all of your future potential expenses. You will find that there is no price on integrity. The comunity, whether they know it or not, relies on us to protect them.
Thank goodness you raised the questions. That would have been an accident waiting to happen especially with a crane invoved. I dont even know if that 5th picture can even be considered a weld. Dont diss the farm code, though. Some of this forums' best contributors helped draft it. :)
