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Parent - - By K.Sexton82 (*) Date 06-28-2008 04:32
could you post one that would make the grade i would like to see one of your welds to compare to his
Parent - By southerngray (**) Date 06-28-2008 15:46
yes sir when time permits
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 06-28-2008 14:56 Edited 06-28-2008 19:43
southerngray,
    It appears you are commenting on pipeliner04's pic's. If so, I am interested in how you can make that call based off of these poor quality pic's. You have peaked my curiosity. Maybe I am not looking at the same pic's you are commenting on.

Please help me to understand the basis of your comment.

I also mean no disrespect to you, as you mean no disrespect in your post, I just do not see what you are seeing. ???

jw159

EDIT for spelling
Parent - - By southerngray (**) Date 06-28-2008 22:13
I stand corrected. Look at the pic. the weld in relation to the pipe on the top side and if at first it dosen't look like undercut I will give you a box of 70+
Parent - By jrw159 (*****) Date 06-28-2008 22:53
Keep the rods, I don't need them.

I will agree with you as well, and say that just based off the pic's I see reasonable cause to take a CLOSER look.(Possible undercut, face reinforcement) LOL :-)

Your initial evaluation just threw me for a loop.

jrw159
Parent - - By pipeliner04 (**) Date 07-01-2008 00:03
for everybody havin a look at the pics,,,i too see what your talking about when you first look at it,,,it looks a little low,,,i assure you its not,,,it may also look undercut,,,find me a weld that has absolutely none and ill sell my truck tommorrow.  that cap was in a 375 wall 12 inch pipe and a 300# flange,,best i remember,,,and it was taken with a CAMERA PHONE.  weve got a little down time right now,,,just completed a job,,,not doin any shield arcin,,,but when we get fired up again ill take some more and post em.  thanx guys

jrw159,,sorry for postin this under you just couldnt figure out where else to put it.
Parent - By jrw159 (*****) Date 07-01-2008 00:14
NO problem, I am interested. I did not see the undercut like it was mentioned, and can not make a call on face reinforcement, other than just by the looks I would throw a guge on it. That does NOT mean that it is too high, it just warrants a closer look.

FWIW I think it is a fine looking weld all in all, from what I can tell looking at a pic on a screen. LOL

Keep em comin'

jrw159
Parent - - By pipeliner04 (**) Date 06-28-2008 18:57
hahaha
Parent - - By TRC (***) Date 06-28-2008 20:45
HaHaHa,  assuming your photos are to API 1104 please read 7.8.2  ... nor should it be raised above the parent metal by more than 1/16 in. (1.6mm). Other than that I would sign it off- Looks good-Ted
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 06-28-2008 21:20
Bingo on that. I thought it was 1/8th max face reinforcement, and even at that it looks like I would want to put a guage on it to verify.

For that alone, I am questioning my southern brother for his comments about undercut and underfill, if that is what he was infering.

jrw159
Parent - - By TRC (***) Date 06-28-2008 21:35
API1104, 7.8.2 ... approx 1/8 in. wider than the width of the original groove.  And it's what you learn after you know it all... still learning- Ted

PS I didn't see any of SG's indications either

PPS maybe because that weld was on a reducer it may have been in a compressor station or to another code allowing a larger reinforcement. Still looks darn good- TED
Parent - By K.Sexton82 (*) Date 06-29-2008 01:46
the weld pipeliner04 posted looks pretty good to me. no disrespect to anyone the cap looks a little heavy on top but u cant hardly make a call like that from a picture.as for undercut and looking below flush i didnt see it. but thats my opinion and you know what they say about that. pipeliner04 keep crankin them out.
Parent - By Stringer (***) Date 06-29-2008 14:50
Pipeliner04's pictures are the one's you're referring to, southerngray? They are only digital pictures and reflections can get kinda weird with those newfangled devices, but I'm gonna stick my neck out and say those welds look jamb up to me.
Parent - By 52lincoln (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:31
you need to downsize them
Parent - - By texwelder (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:33
You are for nickel and dimein that cap pretty slick, how long you been out there workin
Parent - - By pipeliner04 (**) Date 06-05-2008 02:34
i started at 19 and im 23 now,,,i love to weld and i love perfection...how can i downsize them
Parent - - By texwelder (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:36
a man will never work a day in his life if he loves his job
Parent - By 52lincoln (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:37
so true
Parent - - By 52lincoln (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:37
i move mine to photobucket it automatically does it for you.jpg form.or you can do it from your computer
Parent - - By pipeliner04 (**) Date 06-05-2008 02:41
i posted a couple more smaller ones,,,have a look
Parent - By 52lincoln (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:43
well it looks like you can walk the walk as well LOL!!!keep up the good work.
Parent - - By texwelder (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:43
Say man can I ask how you got hurt, you said you never got to finish that rig because you got hurt
Parent - - By 52lincoln (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:48
walking across the parking lot in raton nm.stepped in a crack and shattered my ankle so it just sit around in my way.and a kid was breaking out so i sold it to him.got me a 12valve cummins  now 1995 model,pimping it out now
Parent - - By texwelder (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:50
you building a bed ? if so post some pics. where you workin
Parent - - By 52lincoln (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:59
i work for att telephone in dallas.i weld on the side.pipe welding fascinates me.i'm trying to learn all i can.both of my brothers weld for atmos.but they dont like talking about welding LOL!!!
Parent - - By texwelder (***) Date 06-05-2008 03:01
something about some welders and cowboys, i know a lot of good cow hands that hate horses but rideone everyday
Parent - By 52lincoln (***) Date 06-05-2008 03:05
yea they say if i had to do it everyday it wouldn't be has much fun.my buddy is a pipeliner and he says the same thing.all welders say you don't want to be a welder,but they still do it go figure LOL!!!
Parent - - By pipeliner04 (**) Date 06-05-2008 02:43
yea im lookin for a shorthood,,,gonna rebuild it, paint it all back and drop a stainless door and hood on it like my 86 im runnin now.  does it still run and in good shape
Parent - By 52lincoln (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:49
i talked to someone this morning about a welder, thought it might have been you
Parent - By cyrus 07 (**) Date 06-05-2008 14:29
ya got those pics hanging on the wall for "uncle Bud" ?? lol I sure would!!!!
Parent - By ZCat (***) Date 06-08-2008 21:35
to downsize, you want to right click and copy first. Open up your picture folder where it has thumbnail pics. Right click, hit copy, then paste in an open area. Then right click on the copy, click on edit, MS Paint will open up. Click on 'Image' up at the top of the page, then click Stretch/Skew and put in a smaller percentage than 100% and the pic will get smaller. then you close it out and it will ask if you want to save the changes, click yes and look see if it is small enough. you want to get it around 100kb or smaller.
Parent - - By Stringer (***) Date 06-08-2008 22:59
Hey, o4, nice cap. Are you pretty much seeing 70+ specified more than the 5p+?
Parent - - By pipeliner04 (**) Date 06-08-2008 23:17
i wouldnt go that far with it. ones a fill and cap rod and the others a bead rod. 
Parent - - By Stringer (***) Date 06-12-2008 23:54
04, I realize 5p+ is a bead rod. I was asking if you see 70+ taking over as fill and cap. My days go back to where 5P is all we had. That's really where my question's coming from. Thanks for any input.
Parent - By tighand430 (***) Date 06-13-2008 02:43
It pretty much has. 798 has been using 8P+ for practice lately. Say it's gonna be what the industry is going to, but they still test you out with 6P bead then 70+ for fill and cap.
Parent - By pipeliner04 (**) Date 06-13-2008 03:52
yea 70+ really is takin over,,we used to use the ol red rod to fill and cap but they started this 8010g rod but i like it
Parent - By 52lincoln (***) Date 06-05-2008 02:33
looks good.someone with dialup might not be able to look at them
Parent - By Kix (****) Date 06-05-2008 12:17
Be careful walking by that baby, you might rip a vent in your clothes.  You all know I'm just messin right?  Figured you've all been around long enough to take a lil sit. ;-)  I'm just playing around. Hell, I wouldn't even lean on that sucker because I might slip off. :-)
Parent - By jonathan snarr Date 06-08-2008 20:15
hey welderdan I'd like to see them to how do I get to them.P.S.first tome log in to this site.
Parent - - By pipeliner04 (**) Date 06-05-2008 02:46
i posted a pic for you to see under downhill pipe pics
Parent - - By welderdan (*) Date 06-06-2008 03:05 Edited 06-06-2008 03:21
for the record I wasn't posting these pics to show off, I still got alot to learn, they just wanted to see some pics, btw those are pits
Parent - - By pipeliner04 (**) Date 06-06-2008 03:46
pits huh,,,you mean those bb's i was talkin about.  if thats the case you might need a closer look
Parent - - By texwelder (***) Date 06-06-2008 04:01
Welderdan, I've seen alot of rusty pipe those are pits not bb's, how long you been welding. Those  caps ain't bad at all I;ve seen a lot worse that passed x-ray

Pipeliner04, Yes sir thats one slick lookin cap I agree, glad you posted the pics, we can all learn and help each other not show off.
Parent - - By pipeliner04 (**) Date 06-06-2008 04:15
ive obviously been welding long enough to know better,,but these pits your talkin about.  tell me exactly what pic your talking about and where.  maybe a little undercut but no pits.
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 06-06-2008 13:32
pipeliner04,
  First off, understand that I am looking at a picture of a picture, so I could be seeing nothing at all, but in this pic, right in the center of the right side aboutan inch out, there is a shiny spot. It appears to have been buffed or ground in that one particular spot and nowhere else.

Again, this could very well be nothing at all, but just about any pipeline inspector will take a closer look to make sure, when they see somthing like that.

jrw159
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Parent - By 3.1 Inspector Date 06-06-2008 22:05
Looks like its rounded, I would say its marks from the allignment tool - but hard to tell from a picture.
Parent - By pipeliner04 (**) Date 06-08-2008 04:49
oh yea i agree with that spot there,,,were arguing over a total different picture,,haha,,thats not mine.
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 06-06-2008 04:04
It is not showing off when it is requested. 

Kudo's to ALL, and I say, show it off.

jrw159
Parent - - By texwelder (***) Date 06-06-2008 04:08
I know keep the pics coming guys and be proud of what you can do and always learn more.
Parent - - By Kix (****) Date 06-10-2008 15:05
All I know is, if we keep the bashing up, no one will post pictures.
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