Strother, Remember the hidden costs for a employee like matching FICA ,workers comp., and all the other taxes and insurance b.s. My accountant recommends adding at least 25% on to the wage just for that stuff and then you have to decide what he's worth to you. ( shows up consistantly, doesn't break tools & equipment up,talks toooo much, brings his trouble at home to work, or is just plain irratating after 8 hrs.) Go Luck PS. GO STEELERS in the hunt for #7