You are stirring up a hornets nest head welder. The guy who is asking for help is an accomplished welder but is doing an unfamiliar process. Lawrence has forgotten more about welding than a smart fella like you has had time to learn. So crawl back under your rock and shut your smart mouth.

Your not making a very good first impression here HEAD WELDER.
Im not the only one here that knows that the REAL HEAD WELDERS dont put less experienced welders down.
Since this is only your 2nd post, why dont you tell us your background?

Guess from the sounds of it you need to fork out the dough and build your own website where you can revel in your own glory. I own a company and if somebody comes around and says he knows everything I don't want his azz working for me. Think they need to alter the old saying, "you can't fix stupid" to include arrogance.

Lawrence is a wealth of knowledge respected by tons of folks on here including me and for a doofus to come in here and start spouting off at the mouth with just 3 posts I think I agree with Pickupman, shut your pile hole and crawl back to mama's bosom. Just saying.......idiots.....world full of them I swear.....need to change my quote down below to include idiots as well.

Note to Richard Head; Lawrence was using sarcasm. Look it up when you are looking for your CPA/Accountant...in your line of work which is, wait for it.....a** clown.

Well typically when a guy first comes onto this forum he introduces himself or gives it a few months before he starts spouting off like a smart azz to people he don't know. It's pretty hard to pick up sarcasm and things in print and when you start a post raggin' on a guy that's been on this forum for quite awhile your likely to raise a few eyebrows from others. There's lots of guys on here that cut each other up all the time, some here I can do it with cause we know each other. Nothing about who you are but first impressions as they say can make or break you. It's not that we are the type of guys to "pull the worst out of what someone says" it's because you sounded like an a-hole with your original post.

HEADWELDER,   I guess your talking to or about me in your post. Let me tell YOU about me. Own a welding & fabrication business since 1982 out of Pittsburgh PA.  Built biz. from ground up have had up to 10 employees. Work union I.W. local #3 in the field have 2-3 full time in shop now. (been with me for 10 & 15 yrs.)  Unfortunately things have gone sideways for last 3 yrs. Contracts not as big as before and ALOT of price cutting going on. Haven't got a steady check from the biz. since 09. But my guys get paid and my bills get paid.  Come to the realization that the biz. needs to change !!!!!! See W. PA. is boomin' with the Marcelllus Shale and have persued work from there. Doing ok fabing ladders,stairs,guards, rails,etc.  But I would like to get into station work but need to learn a FEW things.  Can weld steel ,aluminum, stainless, etc.  Can TIG,MIG, Stick weld uphill , certified  for commercial piping  but need  to learn downhill 1104 API to get into the piping end. I'm 50 yrs.old, to young to retire and believe in leading by example. Once I learn I will bring my guys with me so we all can earn a better livin' and be more versitile !!!! In closing I know 1 thing, if a guy like you come struttin' into my shop you'd be leavin' real quick cause I see better than I hear and I've sent ALOT of BSers on their way in 30 yrs. of business!!!!!!!!

Dam sound like a friend of mine been welding for over 20 years and has welded on every kinda metal known to man and still can't weld for **** but likes to bragggggggg how great he is. NO ONE gives sh*t.