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- - By rmdrmd15 (**) Date 09-27-2013 11:14
Is this a type-o?

Question about AWS14.1:2005, table 18, plate-groove, test position 2G, does the foot note (3) apply to both positions for fillet welds?  This doesn't seem to match AWSD1.1 where as if you test on plate 2G you can weld fillets in both flat and horizontal of any pipe diameters.
Parent - - By rmdrmd15 (**) Date 09-27-2013 11:34
So according to AWSD14.3:2005, table 8 there is a foot note that states for positions not listed above.... refer to B2.1.  So when refering to table B2.1, table 5.5 if I test in 2G it also qualified for fillet welding F/H for pipe of any diameters.

So am I ok?
Parent - By welderbrent (*****) Date 09-27-2013 12:17 Edited 09-27-2013 15:00
Will have to wait until I get to my books later this morning, but I think the difference here is between fillet welds and groove welds.

I know that D1.1 says that if you are groove weld qualified you can weld pipe 24" and greater (edit: this is for groove welds in pipe, must keep groove and fillet separated).  I don't know off the top of my head about fillet welds but it seems like it is any size, for example, 2" pipe fillet welded to a plate. 

The second difference between D1.1 and D14.3 would be the application for heavy equipment instead of structural steel.  I can see where those specs would be different in their production application, though not in their qualification, because of stresses etc.

But, I need to get to my books and look at D14.3 as well as 14.1 and see if I can find out and I am very busy today, may take a bit.

Have a Great Day,  Brent
Parent - By TimGary (****) Date 09-27-2013 14:40
I'm not sure I understand your base question and I don't have AWS14.1 with me but,
AWS D14.3: 2010, Table 8 says that WPQ-2G qualifies for 1 and 2G, 1 and 2F, without reference to pipe diameter.
AWS B2.1:2009, Table 5.5 states the same, and goes on to define in Table 5.6 that pipe dia. for fillet welds is not regulated.
So, if you pass a plate 2G test to B2.1, you're qualified to weld fillets in the 1 and 2F positions, on plate or any dia pipe, to B2.1 and D14.3.

Tim
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