No disrespect Electrode but, the "Murex" box that Paladin is referring to is a Lincoln product, and not a Murex via ESAB product so let's make the distinction between the two clearly instead of confusing folks even more so than they already are... It's Murex via Lincoln Electric product line of welding consumables as it is written in the Lincoln catalog for Murex welding consumables:
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Product Breadth"
Lincoln offers a broad range of welding consumables under the Murex brand name that includes stick electrodes, MIG (Gas Metal Arc) wire electrode, gas-shielded cored wire products and stainless Stick, MIG and TIG electrodes. You’ll find that there’s a Murex product for virtually every application.
Stick ElectrodesQuality Control
Murex stick electrode raw material is meticulously checked for 19 different elements before it enters our manufacturing systems. We then verify the chemistry of our finished stick electrode products at more than a dozen separate points during the manufacturing process. This level of inspection and Lincoln Electric’s sophisticated ISO 9001 manufacturing and quality control systems ensure that our quality is head and shoulders above the competition. It also guarantees that we consistently meet AWS A5.1 or AWS A5.5 and ASME SFA-5.1 or SFA-5.5stick electrode requirements.Arc PerformanceMurex stick electrodes by Lincoln Electric have consistently good arc characteristics – from great puddle control and clarity to good restrikeability and low spatter. These are the qualities that you want in your stick electrode and that we ensure in our Murex product line." Unquote...
Okay let's focus on the first three sentences in the Stick Electrode - Quality Control paragraph above... It states: " Murex stick electrode raw material is meticulously checked for 19 different elements before it enters our manufacturing systems. We then verify the chemistry of our finished stick electrode products at more than a dozen separate points during the manufacturing process. This level of inspection and Lincoln Electric’s sophisticated ISO 9001 manufacturing and quality control systems ensure that our quality is head and shoulders above the competition." now this could mean two explanations...
One could be that Murex is indeed the manufacturer of these electrodes and has an agreement with Lincoln Electric similar to the agreement between Murex - the manufacturer, and ESAB UK - the parent providing company which is a separate entity from ESAB NA(North America)and as such, are both also owned by separate entities...
Two could be that ESAB via Murex, or just Murex is providing the raw materials and recipe for manufacturing the electrodes and Lincoln is licensed by Murex to actually manufacture the E7024 product as well as other Murex welding consumable products, and Lincoln is also using their ISO 9001 quality system to ensure the end product which is virtually identical to what the Murex recipe calls for as the end product...
Btw, the Murex/ESAB version of E7024 calls itself "Super Fastex" as opposed to just plain Murex(Registered Trademark)7024 and packaged in a cardboard box container labeled:
"Lincoln Electric" with "lincolnelectric.com" printed on the side of the rectangular box ...
Regardless of who is actually manufacturing the Murex E7024 product which in Paladin's case has a Lincoln Electric cardboard boxed container with Lincoln's own name on the box as it can be clearly seen in the Lincoln electric link here:
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/Consumables/Pages/product.aspx?product=Products_Consumable_MurexConsumables-Murex-Murex7024%28LincolnElectric%29So now that it has been established that both Lincoln and ESAB use the Murex name, and none of us are privvy to the actual agreements, or arrangements regarding the use of the same name which is Murex... The Lincoln Electric version clearly states as part of the brochure link for Murex E7024 this:
"Manufactured under a quality system certified to ISO 9001 requirements" This is the statement that is at least for me, causing the most ambiguity with respect to who is actually manufacturing the Lincoln Electric version of the Murex E7024...
After reading and comparing from both the ESAB/Murex link and both of the Lincoln Electric/Murex links... The only conclusion I have as an observation is that Murex the manufacturer and designer of the E-7024 SMAW electrode is licensing Lincoln Electric to manufacture the same recipe and using theISO 9001 quality control system to verify that they're producing the end product exactly the way Murex wants them to manufacture the E 7024 electrodes
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/Consumables/Pages/product.aspx?product=Products_Consumable_MurexConsumables-Murex-Murex7024%28LincolnElectric%29Here's the ESAB/Murex product catalog link, the Super Fastex E7024 electrodes are shown in page 21 of 58 in the .pdf:
http://www.murexwelding.co.uk/gb/en/products/upload/Murex-Arc-Gas-Conumables-3.pdfIn conclusion, we're both right about Murex but in Paladin's case, the electrodes he purchased have the Lincoln Electric brand name on it and not the ESAB brand name.
Respectfully,
Henry
