By welderbrent
Date 07-05-2009 22:33
Edited 07-06-2009 00:36
Bert,
I don't believe that was at all the tenor of my post. In fact, right as I posted it I thought of a couple of things that I should have added. Mainly because of some of the other comments that had already been made in regards to this topic.
1) I don't believe it is anyone's, especially not mine, position that people be eliminated from this forum for not mastering perfect English. I do believe effort to communicate clearly is very needed. But as this is a worldwide forum, there will be those whose use of "OUR" language makes them rather difficult to understand. That's where it is so important to ask questions, define terms, and make sure each understands the other.
2) It would benefit all of us if people would at least allow us to veiw certain items of your user profile. Where are you from? What is your primary language? What is your real name? No. Not all these should be mandatory. But sometimes it helps to know something about the person you are responding to. I have a lot of info on mine including, I believe, my company website where anyone can go and find out a lot about me. I'm not afraid of being harassed, solicited, etc by people I respect because we have a common profession, interests, and desire to advance.
3) Patience, tolerance, moderation, helpfulness, kindness. These are things that I desire to see from all my peers. I know I need work on them. I believe we all do. None of us is perfect. I tend to have a very short fuse coupled to a very passionate, opinionated, biased, mentality that must be manhandled into check occassionally. Just ask my family. Ask others on this forum. But I do try to be a voice of common sense. I hate confrontation. BUT, I jumped right into the middle of this anyway. I do feel it is my business. BECAUSE it does involve me. It involves an organization that I believe in. It involves people that I respect and admire. It involves bringing people together from many walks of life, countries, languages to do something for the common good. IS THERE ANYTHING BETTER THAN THAT?? At a time when so much seems to be coming apart around us, let's see what we can do to TRULY CHANGE THINGS!! First, respect one another. Second, help one another. Third, Be patient with each other.
Bert, Don't shoot the me. Let's not be guilty of shooting our own friends, fellow labourers. And no matter what you think of Joe, Shane, 3.2, OR ME... Slow down, breath, and ask, how can I improve the situation? Not push it on over the edge.
Most of us have never met. I would love to meet many of you. Even those I disagree with. You have all contributed to my knowledge base and helped me in many areas of OUR chosen profession. That is what it means to be part of the human family. Able to pool knowledge. Able to agree to disagree. Able to make intelligent, constructive, informative dialogue to persuade others. Try it. It makes life so much sweeter than the anger, bitterness, backbiting that causes ulcers because we cannot tolerate those who would oppose us or not live up to our standards.
I wish everyone would at least try to do their best to post clear concise thoughts that the readers don't have to second guess some of the meanings because there is absolutely no punctuation. It is unbelievable how easy thoughts can be twisted by moving a coma. When they aren't even there, how do we know for sure what you meant.
I would stress again, one of the first things in this line went something like (sorry, I didn't go back to quote it) 'seem to be a moron'. The person was not called a moron. It becomes a question. Do you want to be seen as a moron? No one does. Well, maybe some. But I believe you know what I mean. So, to me, the answer would be, 'No I don't'. How can I keep from giving that impression? In this case, by doing the person's best to make his thread appear that of one at least slightly educated. You don't have to be a scholar, or English professor to use punctuation, capital letters, and a reasonable paragraph format. It is so much easier and more pleasant to read. And less likely to be misunderstood.
I better stop for now. I hope I have made sense to all. If this appeal has offended anyone that was not my intent. There are some who will not be satisfied no matter what I, or anyone else, say.
Think about it Bert. And, all others who have been part of this thread.
Have a Great Day, Brent