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- - By KSellon (****) Date 05-14-2010 22:08 Edited 09-29-2010 22:22
1 YR BUMPER TO BUMPER WARRANTY. $6000

original buyer unable to pay balance-- SOLD
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Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 05-14-2010 23:21 Edited 05-14-2010 23:23
this is a machine that has been in my shop since 2008 --- although the rebuild was not started until 11-2010 and completed in Jan 2010 (due to customer delays)

Rebuild was painted 3 times.. nothing hasn't been touched. After 4 months of sitting on bill I regretfully must sell it to the pay what I have into it. The chrome shop, service techs, painter, engine shop, etc have all been paid. I have not. So with a heavy heart I put up for sale-- all the while knowing the 798 hand that owns it and owes me is now going to rape me in the field with their words.  BUT I have to pay my bills too..

This breaks my soul but NOONE would sit on a bill for this long....
Parent - By pypLynr (***) Date 05-15-2010 01:23 Edited 05-15-2010 01:26
Kaye , if he's a 798 hand , he probly drinks a little or smokes cigarettes . LOL .He could have sacrificed on some of his bad habits , a little.  Apparently  ,HIS machine isn't as precious to him as you thought , when he dropped it off for the re-work . Atleast a $5 or $20  or even a $1 here and there , since 2008 would atleast show effort and good faith on the bill . I wouldn't worry about it , Kaye . He HAD to know it was coming , sooner or later .
Parent - - By JeremyW83 (***) Date 05-16-2010 02:18
Kaye- what is the information for the paint you used?
Parent - By KSellon (****) Date 05-17-2010 20:22
urethane or acrylic enamel. I have the color special mixed, close enough to Lincoln to make me happy.

All is good, Lincoln called to day and said if any company stands for Lincoln electric its us. Said he'd call the complaintant and forward any information they required.
Parent - By Cactusthewelder (*****) Date 05-16-2010 02:59
Kaye, You need to remember, For Ever 1 person talking bad about you, There are 10 saying someting good ! I wouldn't worry until the numbers get turned around the other way. And from what I know of you, That ain't about to happen !!!
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 05-16-2010 14:36
Kaye,
  So sad that it has to come to this, but as you say, you have bills too. Kids gotta eat, you gotta have heat and lights just like everyone else. 

As for the words in the field, well I would not worry yourself much about that. You guys have a great all around reputation both for your work and the way you work with people. Plus the "field" is indeed a small world and I know for a fact that harsh words about Bill's Welder Repair and you could quickly lead to the loss of more than an unpaid for welding machine.

I for one will not have one speck of sympathy for someone crying about you selling a machine that they did not pay for or even make an attempt to pay for.

For what it is worth, the machine looks great!

Take care,
jrw159
Parent - By Cactusthewelder (*****) Date 05-16-2010 21:02
Amen !!!
Parent - - By Johnny Walker (***) Date 09-29-2010 04:01
The machine was owned by a friend of mine I believe and yes the rebuild was not started till late but I also recall a shorthood that has flames on it that was paid in full and never worked right even still don't after fowler even worked on it total investment of over 12k so fellas b4 u think bout gettin a old welder redone by anyone think of this a new one has a warranty that Lincoln wILL stand behind and fix it for three years for free this is not a bills welder repair bashing but not a great outcome either my friend has bout 4700 bucks invested in this machine and the one that they have 12k in won't even run right so flashy paint and chrome won't make it weld any better..
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 09-29-2010 21:56 Edited 09-29-2010 22:21
The shorthood machine was warrantied for 1.5 years.. When you spend 4700 on a 1948 and then let it be put on a sled down the right of way..others don't love your investment as much as you do..  I really liked k & j L.... it really broke my heart to do this...

I never speak bad of 798, engineers yes, common workin man NO!

The shorthood you speak of was rebuilt in 2008. 8 months later (May 2009) when in PA, the starter failed to retract and was shooting sparks out of the Gen housing while sled mounted on the right of way. I paid to get it to my shop and warrantied it, completely checked it out. It wasn't until April 2010 when we were calling to get money on her bill or we were selling the machine, that all the sudden the Shorthood is crap and we suck, etc, etc, etc.

This machine was ok'd by K to start on in Aug 2009, but advised us to go slow so payments could be made. It was finished Jan 2010, and only with a very heavy heart put up for sale 6 months later.
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 09-29-2010 22:24
Johnny-
My words from the pervious post verbatum "all the while knowing the 798 hand that owns it and owes me is now going to rape me in the field with their words.  BUT I have to pay my bills too"
Parent - By Johnny Walker (***) Date 09-30-2010 00:35
Iwas on that job and I think the stories got crossed up
cause the 48 never was on a sled the 87 he built was tho it got messed up the 48 was in the truck the whole time I saw the everyday the 48 only saw the row in a truck bed it was Minnesota
Parent - - By pipeliner2 (*) Date 10-03-2010 04:04
the 1.5 year warranty is total ******** if that was the case why did they have to take it to Fowler. The gen. was supposed to be dipped and baked and completely rebuilt,not done.The engine leaks like a sift probably not done right either. If anyone would like to see first hand that can be arrainged Aand you can see for yourselves what kind of work these people do. And if there are any questions about the shorthood just call Fowler and ask him about the fella who got hosed on the flameing shorty
Parent - By KSellon (****) Date 10-05-2010 19:17
a minute to scan the invoice into the computer and post it. I can even scan in the work order. Nothing about dipping and baking the housing, just new cables and wires with reinsulate... I"ll get it posted.

That way all can see what I was asked to do by Kim and Jared Lattinville.....
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 10-06-2010 04:43
OK i'm tired of you bitc*&^) over a machine you dont own I live in Jourdanton Texas bring the machine to me so i can weld with it you said you and arain it which im guessing means arrange (at least i can spell) and prove it i wont belive it til i see it and if it had warranty why didnt you oh s*&^ i mean your so called friend send it back for the work instead of paying Fowler to fix it which you said he couldnt so you oh s)(* i mean your friend send it back to bills and get it fixed ? I'M WAITING to see this ghost of a machine arrange it so i can see first hand just how bad it welds
Parent - By KSellon (****) Date 10-08-2010 18:40
I posted the invoice,Dec 2008.. The machine came in from MN in Jan 2010. I warrantied it on their word that it had only 20 hours on the machine. I touched up the paint power washed it. Reran, load banked it and welded with it.
Parent - - By pipeliner2 (*) Date 10-03-2010 04:10
that was a lie you cant even keep it straight where the machine was sent from tha shows how attentive you are to your clientel
Parent - By KSellon (****) Date 10-05-2010 19:21
I just have receipts from paying to get it to my shop... And invoices for the rebuild and warranty work provided after that... I can't keep up with the drama you stir---Nor do I care to.
Parent - - By pipeliner2 (*) Date 10-03-2010 04:07
no ones gonna rape you on your words just your work
Parent - - By Cactusthewelder (*****) Date 10-03-2010 22:28
Mr. Pipeliner2, I couldnt help but notice that you are new to this forum. I also notice that you seem to hide behind a screen name. I also see that the only post you have made are related to Kaye or her work. Not a good way to get started here ! I know, I am sure you are one of the SuperWelders that we all hope to become. However, Still not a good start. Besides, That machine is old news. They should have paid their bill.
Parent - By pipeliner2 (*) Date 10-03-2010 23:37 Edited 10-03-2010 23:50
that is true i am new to this forum and im not concerned with makeing friends per say; i just dont want to see anyone get hosed on their equipment like my friend has it doesnt matter of the "old news" what does matter is that the work wasnt right and people need to know whats going on out there.i just hope that if the shoe were on the other foot you would do the same
Parent - - By Johnny Walker (***) Date 10-05-2010 12:16
When I grow up I want a cool name like cactus too lmfao
Parent - - By Cactusthewelder (*****) Date 10-05-2010 12:37
You will have to earn it
Parent - - By Johnny Walker (***) Date 10-06-2010 00:47
LoL are u green with spikes all over u and red pears or what lol
Parent - By Cactusthewelder (*****) Date 10-06-2010 01:53
Close ! A motorcycle club I ride with gave me that name after a crash in 2001
Parent - By Johnny Walker (***) Date 10-06-2010 00:52
I was born with a cool name and got a red and a black weldin rig paid for a vantage300 and a 61 200 paid for weldin 42" pipe in freakin Utah too how's that rig yard goin?
Parent - By KSellon (****) Date 10-05-2010 19:20
The machine was completed in Dec 2008 anf the bit**ing didnt start until YOU couldn't pay your bill for 6 months anf the machine was sold. The person who bought it***LOVES IT**** Believe me Kim I considered you a friend. But you have to pay your bills. Its just like when you lost another machine to a shop in Texas in 2006.
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 07-06-2010 14:51 Edited 09-29-2010 22:25
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Parent - - By Cactusthewelder (*****) Date 07-07-2010 22:59
OK  Here I go again !!!!!!
Parent - By KSellon (****) Date 07-10-2010 02:59
i gotta try n keep u busy
Parent - By KSellon (****) Date 07-10-2010 03:30
shes been painted 4 times already but i would consider Texas orange free repaint for the right buyer
- - By JLWelding (***) Date 05-15-2010 01:59
Trade for a few fire arms and a little cash?
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 05-15-2010 03:09
if obama stays in the next 6 months u have a deal. I'll need heirloom seeds, mak90 with 300 rounds, remngton25-06  with 300 rounds and pse compound bow and a 1000 steer for slaughter. I think that would get me started
Parent - - By chris2698 (****) Date 05-15-2010 03:18
ashame but like you said you gotta pay you're bills

pypLynr I agree I got a friend who says he never has any money but if he'd cut back on the other bad habits he would have cash
Parent - - By JLWelding (***) Date 05-15-2010 03:32
Yea where does it go? I quit drinking 5 yr ago, could have bought a new truck and payed for it in 3 yr on that alone. Quit smoking 1.50 yr ago. I figure I am saving 10k a yr. so where's it at? lol
Parent - - By chris2698 (****) Date 05-15-2010 03:34
I'm slowly getting away from drinking, gaining to much dam weight in general and gotta get back to being healthy again
Parent - - By JLWelding (***) Date 05-15-2010 03:37
Amen on the get back in shape. When I quit I felt 10 yr younger
Parent - By chris2698 (****) Date 05-15-2010 04:54
I'm 30 now but I can feel it's taking it toll already and the older you get the harder to loose it
Parent - By up-ten (***) Date 05-17-2010 01:19
Dang! A gal talking guns and bullets...I love it!!
- - By joe pirie (***) Date 05-16-2010 21:12
don't know any pipeliners worken singlehand. he must have another machine or he's so far
down he don't care no more. sad situation but a beautiful machine
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 05-17-2010 13:06
he has an 82 and a shorty we overhauled almost 2 years ago... Called thursady and said the shorty was given him all kindas of hell and he really needed me to make the shorty right and swap it for this machine while the work was bein done.
Parent - - By JLWelding (***) Date 05-17-2010 20:29
Did you tell him sure thing as soon as you pay your two year old bill. Or should we have painted it green for you? Dont feel for one minute you need to do squat for him. If the shoe was on the other foot he would be at your door step everyday looking for payday.
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 05-17-2010 20:34
you are correct. And yes I did, so they told me today that they wanted nothing to do with the machine. Seems John with Arc Services has heard of these 2.
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 05-21-2010 13:47
You ol mean a$$ lol just kidding i would of sold it along time ago. And like the others dont worry about what people say hell they talk about me all the time they are just jealous
Parent - - By pipeliner2 (*) Date 10-03-2010 03:54
its funny that the people that dont know anything about the people yall are talking about can pass judgement on them i wonder what yall would say if it happened to your stuff and your money
Parent - By shorthood2006 (****) Date 10-05-2010 23:22
kay has worked on my equipment and my bill was paid! I have had really good luck with Bills welder repair in okc. just my opinion!
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