The klin is a 12" (whatever the standard is) and the little one is a 8" that I did a cut and paste with.
I worked with a guy that had a small spud and I tried to buy it from him but he wouldn’t sell it and I have looked around some I just haven’t been able to find one. I am just wondering if they are available on the commercial market and if they are what they are going for
Here is another pic that shows it better
http://grizzzly.smugmug.com/Other/lathe/i-hFS3Fsx/0/L/DSCF7270-L.jpg