Hello again Gerald, I'll see about doing some checking with our machine shop instructor. He used to have some pretty good connections up there, maybe he can give me something that I can send your way. That I am familiar with, aircraft, aerospace, and many of the pulp and paper industries use a fair amount of titanium. Some of the time, the mechanical and piping contractors that work on these mills will have remnants and stuff left over that you might be able to do some horse trading for. Regards, Allan EDIT: have one other thought to consider, if you have any flat-track motorcycle racing that takes place close to you at all, the folks that are involved with this use hot-shoes that are made from titanium in many cases. Some of them might be making their own shoes and might have extra material or be able to direct you to some through their sources.