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Topic Old Forum New Forum By pipewelder_1999 Date 08-07-2016 18:23
I think that is great news!

Thanks to all for the efforts put forth letting AWS know how important this is.

Have a great day

Gerald
Topic New AWS Member Network By pipewelder_1999 Date 08-05-2016 18:15
I received a response as well a little while ago.

We will just have to see what happens. It is definitely their sandbox (with a few toys freely contributed by both registered and non-registered sandbox users). I do think they are still discussing the issue but there is really nothing to lead me to believe this forum will stay intact as it is.

^^^^^^^
I was wrong
Topic New AWS Member Network By pipewelder_1999 Date 08-05-2016 15:06
Its great to go back and read old posts. Thise of members who are gone, those still here, and even my own. Hate to lose that!
Topic New AWS Member Network By pipewelder_1999 Date 08-05-2016 12:06
I sent one a few days back myself. No response though.

I am hoping this forum isn't locked. Surely the new one and the original one can "peacefully co-exist".

Gerald
Topic Kudos By pipewelder_1999 Date 08-02-2016 16:47
I appreciate your time on the phone earlier and look forward to working with you if it comes to that.
Topic Manual to semi automatic GTAW By pipewelder_1999 Date 08-01-2016 19:54
:grin:
Topic Manual to semi automatic GTAW By pipewelder_1999 Date 08-01-2016 17:57
What para. requires that?

QW-356 makes no distiction for the method used to add the filler metal and if its soomewhere else, boy have I messed up some papers.

Gerald
Topic Banned By pipewelder_1999 Date 08-01-2016 15:45
Pretty sure a backup of whichever database is on the backend and then working with it as opposed to the live data may be the way to eliminate that from happening in the future. Even if you have remote hosting, phpmyadmin may handle making a duplicate. I m sure there are more elegant ways but that is one that comes to mind quickly.

Would love to help with such a project but not really experienced in such things.
Topic About to start asme sect.IX B31.3 any tips By pipewelder_1999 Date 08-01-2016 00:04
If you are not working under the direction of someone experienced with the code I would strongly suggest you let whoever the party is you are working with know.

Not doing a job you may not be ready for is better than doing one. You do of course have to gain experience but understand that in some cases there isn't any easing into it. There is not much to learn on a forum in a short amount of time. If you don't have someone to get you up to speed, it could be a rocky road.

The key to a code being "easy" is understanding how it works. However going on a project may include the need to have an understanding very quickly.

There will project specifications and drawings that should let you know the piping categories however each individual piping specification may have requirements outside those of the referenced codes. B31.3 has piping categories that are usually specified by the owner/engineer. Each category will have its own requirements including amount of inspection and acceptance criteria. My 1st few days on a new project involve finding the project related documents and verifying that they are the latest versions applicable to the project.

The duties as a welding inspector can vary widely depending on who you are representing.

As someone who made some pretty significant mistakes in the past, my number one rule is "Know what you know, know what you don't know"

Have a great day and sorry there's not a cliff notes version of "Inspecting per B31.3" or a few youtube videos.  I suggest getting your hands on a code asap for study. Even if its an older version it will help. Using a code is not knowing the content but is knowing how to find it.

I still have difficulties with a new code and I have been in inspecting and reading codes since the late 80's. I have been wrapping my brain around D1.5 for 2 hours or so a day for the last 2 weeks and thats JUST for qualifying a procedure. Be careful as you go forward and take the time to get familar with the code.

Gerald Austin
Topic Activity 7 years ago vs now. By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-31-2016 02:08
I was looking through old posts just reading things I had written in the past and came across the topic related to the "Off Topic bar and Grill"

Its kinda interesting how many people expressed an opinion on this and commented versus the activity related to the current issues at hand. I wonder how the activity overall has changed since then.

https://app.aws.org/forum/topic_show.pl?pid=157343
Topic Kudos By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-30-2016 21:19
My wife and I spoke of that and when I was messaging Allens wife she mentioned a discussion they had recently about letting people know.
Topic Banned By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-30-2016 15:20
I just posted one with a link one I just setup just in case. Wonder what will happen there ?
Topic Just in Case- A Place to gather. By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-30-2016 15:11
I want to say 1st off that my preference is for this forum in its current state (with the exemption of useless spammers) is one of the greatest online assets in the welding community. Part of that is because of the long history of content entered by members of this community , some of which are no longer with us, and by the current participants.

Should this forum be stopped all of a sudden, I think many of us would lose contact with those people with opinions and knowledge we highly value. I really hope that doesn't happen and the leaders at AWS (Which I would think are the Members), would take into consideration the value of this forum for those in the welding community.

I sincerely hope that AWS will work this out with the following.

1) keep this forum AS- IS except for lack of spammer moderation.

2) Preserve all of the existing content of this forum for searching.

3) Create a "Member Only" forum for AWS members that helps AWS prosper in reaching whatever their goals are.

Gerald Austin
Topic Kudos By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-30-2016 13:51
Here is abut 10 minutes of "setup" time.  If a group decided they wanted to get another forum going, I would be glad to help however I think since this forum is still working, and nothing has actually "happened" yet it may not be needed.

The site name is one I already had and other are still available. Understand I am by no means an expert in online forums etc.. but have quite a few years as a hack with websites. But my services are here.

http://weldertraining.org/forum/
Topic Kudos By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-30-2016 13:39
I would be glad to get a domain purchased (Only Costs about $25.00 a year).

This software is free and hosting can be done for <$30.00 per month.

Many others exist, when I get done with this message I will make one up real quick.
Topic CWI test results By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-29-2016 21:10
Congratulations
Topic To know about FCAW By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-29-2016 11:43
There are no "Study materials" for certification that are as valuable as instructor led guidance during hands on practice.

You very well may see some great videos etc...  You need an understanding of the process, the variables and how they affect welding, and MOST OF ALL, some welding time under supervision of an instructor that cann reinforce the theoretical topics related to the process.

The above is just an opinion of one man, so treat it as such.
Topic Weld MP35N to 15-5PH Possible? By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-29-2016 01:46
NiCrFe-3 has been my friend many times on "just gotta stick together" as has NiCrMo-3/4
Topic Heat Input Qualifications D1.5 2015 clarification By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-28-2016 12:23
I interpret the average to be calculated without the values for the root and cap passes because of the statement ..." The average heat input for the test shall be calculated using the calculated heat input value for all passes exempting the root and cap passes...."

I can however  say this code has been an adventure to get to know in the past few weeks.
Topic Getting to know each other, another member passed By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-28-2016 02:55
The link above will show you all of the posts made under his username.
Topic You killed it anyhow By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-27-2016 22:01
Thanks
Topic Getting to know each other, another member passed By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-27-2016 15:49
Posted it on the General Weldinng section
Topic A forum Member gone-Aevald By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-27-2016 15:49
I have been wondering about Allan Evald as he was one of a few active member on a LinkedIn instructors group yet I hadn't seen any posts or responses too messages I sent.

I am terribly saddened to report that it looks like he has passed away. I questioned the other instructor by email and received confirmation

"Allan did pass on July 14 @ 12:45pm.
There will be a Celebration of Life on Aug. 6 @1pm here at LCC.
He was a super guy, good friend and wonderful working partner.
He will be missed everywhere."

In my journey to become a better teacher, he was instrumental in providing some guidance along the way. An extremely sharing person. I really wish I would have been able to meet him face to face. It hit me a bit harder than I thought it would just being an "online" acquaintance.

If you get a chance to meet someone whom you know from the forum, I suggest taking the time to do it. I know I have met a couple and am thankful.

Maybe take a few minutes and look through some of the posts of a great man in the area of sharing welding information.
[url=]
https://app.aws.org/forum/forum_search.pl?words=&user=aevald&board=0&field=body&min=&max=&order=desc%5b/url%5d

I am thankful to Our Lord for all of the blessings I have. One of them being the what I get from the people never seen.
 
Gerald

EDIT: From Allans Wife

"Any comments that people would want to share can be sent to me by email or on the Caringbridge.org website and I will share it with our children"

The caringbridge website is https://www.caringbridge.org/public/allanevald
Topic Getting to know each other, another member passed By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-27-2016 14:57
I have been wondering about Allan Evald as he was one of a few active member on a LinkedIn instructors group yet I hadn't seen any posts or responses too messages I sent.

I am terribly saddened to report that it looks like he has passed away. I questioned the other instructor by email and received confirmation

"Allan did pass on July 14 @ 12:45pm.
There will be a Celebration of Life on Aug. 6 @1pm here at LCC.
He was a super guy, good friend and wonderful working partner.
He will be missed everywhere."

In my journey to become a better teacher, he was instrumental in providing some guidance along the way. An extremely sharing person. I really wish I would have been able to meet him face to face. It hit me a bit harder than I thought it would just being an "online" acquaintance.

If you get a chance to meet someone whom you know from the forum, I suggest taking the time to do it. I know I have met a couple and am thankful.

Maybe take a few minutes and look through some of the posts of a great man in the area of sharing welding information.
[url=]
https://app.aws.org/forum/forum_search.pl?words=&user=aevald&board=0&field=body&min=&max=&order=desc%5b/url%5d

I am thankful to Our Lord for all of the blessings I have. One of them being the what I get from the people never seen
EDIT: From Allans Wife

"Any comments that people would want to share can be sent to me by email or on the Caringbridge.org website and I will share it with our children"

The caringbridge website is https://www.caringbridge.org/public/allanevald
 
Gerald
Topic Weld MP35N to 15-5PH Possible? By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-26-2016 15:50
What is the intended application? Sticking together and suitable foor service are widely different ranges. The materials you mention have vastly different mechanical properties that require consideration during design annd engineering of a product.

Pieces joined together that are dis-similar may lose some of the properties in the WM or HAZ.  Both are weldable alloys and your best bet would to perform testing using filler metals suggested by the manufacturer. If none are suggested for the bimetallic weld, try one with each of the filler metals suggested for each base metal.

This would probably be best answered by someone familar with the application and service conditions. If you are making some Yard art, you have a great deal of fllexability, if you are making surgical implants or aerospace equipment,  its an entirely different story and in need of some actual research and testing that is far beyond the scope of online forums.

Consulting an actual metallurgist would be a great place to start however there very well may be some here that are familar with this material.  (More the Nickel Cobalt than the PH Stainless). In addition, you failed to mention the condition in which the 15-5 ph is supplied which would propably be of interest to someone smarter than I that ccould give you some real help.

Old welders like me,,, i just start with RN-82 if anything seems odd :)

Hopefuully you will find some help and welcome to the forum.

I'd like too ask, What brings you here? How did you hear about this forum? I would imagine working with those materials, you would be looking in quite a few places.

Have a great day and good luck. I'm looking forward to some responses that help you out. Tell us more about the product though.

Gerald Austin
Topic Welding Forums (Cross Posted) By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-26-2016 12:10
Just tried, It let me. I noticed that there are onlyy 38 members now so something happened.
Topic Welding Forums (Cross Posted) By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-26-2016 12:08
Hmmmm. I was able to comment but it was only on mine.
Topic Welding Forums (Cross Posted) By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-25-2016 14:44
Works on my phone. No posts exist but prior blog entries are visible and can be commented on.
Topic Forum User Email Addresses POST HERE !! By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-25-2016 11:12
Here is mine
Attachment: contact.jpg - Contact info (48k)
Topic what this forum is about By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-24-2016 03:19
So many Great posts by so many people passionate about sharing and gaining knowledge! Those and the others mentioned along with many of current company are exceptional in my book.
Topic WPS and Base Metals By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-24-2016 02:31
Does QW-403.5(b) apply to the welding you will be doing. Is it listed as a "supplementary essential" variable for your process in the code? If yes, do supplementary essential variables apply to the qualification of your procedure?

If QW-403.5(b)is listed as an "essential variable" then it applies always.

Though I could have answered your question more directly, looking at it like this may help.
Topic Certified Welding Engineer By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-24-2016 02:22
You may be able to search the post for CWENG or click this link to see posts with that in the text.

https://app.aws.org/forum/forum_search.pl?words=Cweng&user=&board=0&field=body&min=&max=&order=desc

Of course the info from AWS is a resource that you may already be aware of but here it is again. http://www.aws.org/certification/detail/certified-welding-engineer

Have a great day. Wish I could help you with my experience but engineer I am not. Wish I was sometimes but cant think of 4 years of welding experience I would have traded for it yet.

Welcome to the best welding forum in the world...while it lasts!

Gerald
Topic Welding Forums (Cross Posted) By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-24-2016 02:13
I think ANYTHING that does away with this forum is a considerable loss to the welding community .  Sure a new AWS Forum with some ACTUAL support from AWS and a few neat and shiny ads in the WJ may very well get some membership up for the new forum but it is my opinion it will take years to get the content up to that contained in this forum. Individuals that are currently online  increasing their knowledge using various resources do so because thats what they like to do.

This original forum works fine as is except for a lack of moderation. The entire source code is open source. A few programmers experience with scripting languages and databases could easily "upgrade" this forum to include some security to minimize spam.

My desire is for AWS to continue with their new forum but keep the "original" and keep the content not only available for everyone, but allowed to continue and grow.

The new forum would be a great resource to get in touch with the ever more difficult to reach AWS Staff. Maybe get a code interpretation done in a manner that is a little more modern, Maybe even have online committee meetings that include individuals other that the often "corporate sponsored" participants. MAYBE EVEN EVERY MEMEBER could vote on committee topics and the results be shown in REAL time.   It would make a great tool for open discussions regarding committee topics, AWS Membership Issues, and other programs offered by AWS.

AWS is about money. But of course I don't work for free either yet anyone that posts content useful to "MEMBERS ONLY" will be working for free.

Welding has been a lifelong experience for me and I get a great deal of enjoyment both expanding my knowledge and helping others.

Many years ago I was trying to make a free moodle site for welding related training (Inspection, Basic Welding Theory etc..) . I asked AWS for copyright permission to use some of the terms. They were an extremely long time responding, gave me limited permission, and stated that this was part of their "revenue". I understand it somewhat but it still let me know where they are.

Its not only AWS. I have recently come to the conclusion that training and education is more of a business in which administrators, deans, and overall organizations gain revenue based upon the work of those who are knowledgeable in a specific area.

Back in the late 90's I let my 1st CWI number expire after the 6th year. When I called to see what could be done, they were adamant about me paying a "late fee" on top of the renewal fee. This would have put the cost near or over that of taking the whole test again. When I explained that to them on the phone, I could hear the exasperation in their voice when they realized I would just take the whole test again.

The annual reports in the  WJ's show the revenue generated by various sources. Certification is the big cash cow. I doubt the new forum will make a big dent in both membership or overall revenue however that is my very narrow view of things.  Because of better advertising and promotion, maybe some new members will be generated, maybe some old members that were afraid or restricted from getting on a "public" forum will be allowed. 

But regardless of any future benefits, I can't see the need to get rid of the original forum. I think the original forum would be a tremendous asset to anyone in the industry. I would probably participate in both if the new forum was used as a tool to communicate with staff and address some AWS Specific Questions.

However THE ENTIRE STAFF OF AWS CANNOT match the value of the experience that has been shared on the original forum.

Maybe once the moderators get done with the Pallets and Toilet Seat posts I notified them about, they will take my extra posts off.
Topic My opinion on Welding Forums By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-24-2016 02:08
I think ANYTHING that does away with this forum is a considerable loss to the welding community .  Sure a new AWS Forum with some ACTUAL support from AWS and a few neat and shiny ads in the WJ may very well get some membership up for the new forum but it is my opinion it will take years to get the content up to that contained in this forum. Individuals that are currently online  increasing their knowledge using various resources do so because thats what they like to do.

This original forum works fine as is except for a lack of moderation. The entire source code is open source. A few programmers experience with scripting languages and databases could easily "upgrade" this forum to include some security to minimize spam.

My desire is for AWS to continue with their new forum but keep the "original" and keep the content not only available for everyone, but allowed to continue and grow.

The new forum would be a great resource to get in touch with the ever more difficult to reach AWS Staff. Maybe get a code interpretation done in a manner that is a little more modern, Maybe even have online committee meetings that include individuals other that the often "corporate sponsored" participants. MAYBE EVEN EVERY MEMEBER could vote on committee topics and the results be shown in REAL time.   It would make a great tool for open discussions regarding committee topics, AWS Membership Issues, and other programs offered by AWS.

AWS is about money. But of course I don't work for free either yet anyone that posts content useful to "MEMBERS ONLY" will be working for free.

Welding has been a lifelong experience for me and I get a great deal of enjoyment both expanding my knowledge and helping others.

Many years ago I was trying to make a free moodle site for welding related training (Inspection, Basic Welding Theory etc..) . I asked AWS for copyright permission to use some of the terms. They were an extremely long time responding, gave me limited permission, and stated that this was part of their "revenue". I understand it somewhat but it still let me know where they are.

Its not only AWS. I have recently come to the conclusion that training and education is more of a business in which administrators, deans, and overall organizations gain revenue based upon the work of those who are knowledgeable in a specific area.

Back in the late 90's I let my 1st CWI number expire after the 6th year. When I called to see what could be done, they were adamant about me paying a "late fee" on top of the renewal fee. This would have put the cost near or over that of taking the whole test again. When I explained that to them on the phone, I could hear the exasperation in their voice when they realized I would just take the whole test again.

The annual reports in the  WJ's show the revenue generated by various sources. Certification is the big cash cow. I doubt the new forum will make a big dent in both membership or overall revenue however that is my very narrow view of things.  Because of better advertising and promotion, maybe some new members will be generated, maybe some old members that were afraid or restricted from getting on a "public" forum will be allowed. 

But regardless of any future benefits, I can't see the need to get rid of the original forum. I think the original forum would be a tremendous asset to anyone in the industry. I would probably participate in both if the new forum was used as a tool to communicate with staff and address some AWS Specific Questions.

However THE ENTIRE STAFF OF AWS CANNOT match the value of the experience that has been shared on the original forum.
Topic AWS D1.2 - Side Bends for 3/8 Plate Procedure Qualification By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-24-2016 01:00
I have noticed this in D1.5 if I recall. Not sure why they work for one D1.x code and not another.

I don't have access to a D1.2 so I'm not much help.

Gerald
Topic Rate of Deposition By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-18-2016 13:05
If you operate using the same settings, the deposition rate is the same. The thing that may change is the production factor due to increased fatigue of the operator.

Deposition efficiency may also change as the overhead position with some processes due to spatter loss and stub loss.

For an overall calculation of costs, factors besides the deposition rate of the process need to be known.
Topic Needing Responses from Members and Non-Members Using Forum By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-17-2016 18:23
I have been an AWS Member since 86 off and on and a member here since 2001 ish according to my profile. There have been years in which I gained NOTHING from my AWS membership other than welding journals. There has NEVER been a year go buy that I didn't gain something from this forum.

I do feel bad that I MAY have used the forum during times when my AWS Membership dues were not paid.

Brent,
We used to be able to create a survey using the forum software but it looks to be disabled now. You could post a similar question on an online form if the responses get numerous.
Topic New Closed Forum By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-15-2016 17:31
I think the new forum with maybe some pinnned posts reminding users of the content here would be great.

However with membership of any group, there should be "perks". The welding Journal for instance is often avaialable to Non-Members online for free. What is left....book discounts...seminar discounts....access to a section library (easier said than done).

I do truly hope this forum stays searchable. I beleive with a few moderators and utilization of the features available through the Mwforum scripts, this forum could function as-is for quite awhile. The only problem I see with it is the Spam and thats something that a few moderators could handle by instantle deletinng users that post anything not welding related.

Back to work for me. Have agreat day.
Topic WPS for Welding Gouge in Shaft By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-14-2016 18:54
Surfacing or Buttering is only used in reference to correcting dimensions for fitup. If you are using A668 and concerned about D1.1 compliance unnderstand that there is more to it than the joint design as the material is not listed.

Filler Metal Match is a small part of the whole process.

SIMILAR TO is a statement that should be used with caution. I don't have enough experience with that specific material  but if you were making me a new product, an I specified that product be made from A668, I would expect you to assure that any processing that could change the properties would be performed in accordance with the requirments of the material specification.

I suggest not worrying about what D1.1 says and testing to assure that the properties required are maintained. Sometimes there is more to the QC than having a document that references a code. Weld a sample, do some testing on the BM and HAZ to verify properties fall within range of the original material.

It is possible that I am overthinking the whole scenario and those with more experience with the materials and applications are bettter suited to tell you what you need. Have patience with my ramblings. :)

Gerald
Topic WPS for Welding Gouge in Shaft By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-14-2016 17:41
That is a normalized and tempered material and I would suggest qualification of a procedure that verifies the mechanical properties intended for end use are maintained.

A written procedure should be required but formost it should be one that maintains the desired properties of the base metal in a manner that is suitable for the application.

In my experience gouges at the journal were less critical than those in the body of the shaft however that was decided by the engineering department of the company.

The joint would be a Surfacing Weld. If this is a rotating element of equipment, D1.1 would not apply unless mentioned by the MFG. If the end product you are providing must meet the requirements of the A668 Gr E, then look in that specification for limitations on weld repairs.

This (IMO) would be an engineered repair and should be looked at closely.

Gerald
Topic Admin By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-14-2016 15:33
Send a message to anieves
Topic New Closed Forum By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-14-2016 00:57
I'd have to disagree with you but of course we are both just offering opinions. It has gotten a little heavier in advertising over the years but I find it as a pretty good resource. I also have thoughts about it, but not "fails"

I personally would like to see information geared towards the welder as opposed to management and supervision however I understand who their customer is. Its Industry as a whole and not the welder.  Sometimes the "American Welder" articles seem a bit abstract however it could be me being out of touch with whats really happening in industry.

Another thing I would love to see is actual reviews of products and equipment. Not just an article that looks like its talking about some new process but is actually pushing a specific manufacturers equipment for super duper dynamic pulse glob circuit welding.

What ways do you think it fails ? 

Have a good day
Topic deleted By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-12-2016 22:27
For SMAW, I believe the only code or specification in which one will find the mysterious 2-1/2" times the core wire diameter limitation is in AWS A5.1.

Topic New Closed Forum By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-11-2016 14:38
I myself am interested in the beta testing to see if it may be a useable forum. I think other than the spam and lack of moderation of members (Validate Email Addresses, Moderate 1st posts for approval etc..) that this forum is the best. I also like eng-tips and a few others.

I too think limiting it to AWS members will be a limiting factor but we will find out. The true error on the part of AWS will be if they do not somehow archive this forum for searching purposes.

Since many have contributed and AWS has claimed "ownership" of the contents, I am a bit troubled by the whole thing.

We will see how it goes.

Gerald
Topic deleted By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-11-2016 14:20
If I remember correctly, we were taught that is C-School and it was based upon heat input limitations. Some of the welding procedures from NNSY and PSNSY controlled heat input for HY80 and also specified a minimum and maximum length of electrode meltoff for a given length of weld .

Procedures were the only restrictions I ever recall however I may not be sure about NS 250-1500 and NAVSEA 389-0317. 

The requirements for bead width are pretty slim as far as a variable for procedure qualification. Heat input was referred to however the statement doesn't refer to bead width (which may not be an accurate variable related to heat input).

"From 248"
"Heat input requirements shall be specified for base materials with toughness
requirements. Combination limits of amperage, voltage and travel speed shall
be specified for the ranges of each parameter. Equivalent means of limiting
heat input (for example, nomographs or for shielded metal-arc, bead length
methods) are permissible. Simple reference to a formula is unacceptable.
Requirements for heat input shall comply with the applicable fabrication
document in all cases. "

Many times the things we are taught in schools stick with us and we never check out the sources other than what the instructor said.

Have a good day.

Gerald
Topic Welding and Pace Makers By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-05-2016 21:21
I asked my EP about the problems with Afib and the possible need for a pacemaker and he didn't seem to concerned however I am not at that stage yet. There are however a few articles online referring to maximum amps etc when welding with a pacemaker.

My afib comes and goes randomly so no hardware needed yet.

I figure if it happens, I will just take up brain surgery or something. I don't think they have to keep a continuity log!

Gerald
Topic Welder Continuity Logs By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-05-2016 21:16
But cant the "Log" take on any format?

I the undersigned hereby certify that that all welders listed below as of this date have continually welded with XXAW and have had no period of time greater than 6 Mos as specified in Quality Manual para  xx.xx.x .  This is based upon existing manufacturing practices which limit employees designated as welders to only perform welding and no other tasks. Continued employment represents continued welding with process XXAW. This statement is supported by timekeeping records for specific projects and may be audited if reason exists to question the abilities of any welders.

I have also seen the back side of WPQ's used as a log.

It can be as simple or as complicated as one wants to make their quality system.

AISC has a pretty extensive "certification" program however having been in some shops, it is sometimes, just "a program". I think a continuity log should be used in any work in which the governing code requires continuity be maintained. It can just get complicated when people think it has to be extremely detailed. Of course with the ability to computerize information so easily, I can't think of a reason to not have one for any fabricator (AISC or just your plain jane).
Topic Welder Continuity Logs By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-02-2016 02:30
6 Mos. Done by an employer or at an ATF and of course includes a Fee. https://app.aws.org/certification/docs/Maintenance.pdf
Topic Welder Continuity Logs By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-02-2016 02:24
Lawrence,

Thanks for your thoughts.

Do you think the differences in quality are based upon welder being tested every two years or possible quality system requirements of the CWB certification scenarios. I see such major differences in standards outside the US that seem so much more detailed I wonder why our building, bridges, boilers and pressure vessels aren't just falling apart at an astounding rate.

I would think if a quality system is in place that monitors quality, a degradation of an employees abilities would become evident without relying on a test. I do surely understand the issues with aging and vision not to mention the need to verify near vision acuity. One spot of LOF or porosity in a bend and what happens, is the person out of a job? I haven't read a CWB  standard but do wonder how a failed test is handled. If they fail their test, does their work come into question that they did the day before?

We know welding is not a perfect science and many a good welders have made a bad weld. Or at least in the industries I have worked in. There is really no right or wrong in any of the systems, they just are what they are. I have little experience outside my little world so I thank you for taking the time to entertain my thoughts/questions etc...

Gerald
Topic Welder Continuity Logs By pipewelder_1999 Date 07-01-2016 15:27
"...have to..." is the key and was in the context of fulfilling code type requirements. Also I was referring more to welding inspectors vs NDE method inspectors which in my opinion are two different things for many methods.

The good thing about inspections is that I don't need a log since I keep all of my inspection reports thus I have objective quality evidence of inspections performed which is MUCH more reliable than a log. 

I do think keeping a record of things is a good idea but does little to show proficiency at at process. It just shows you did it. I watched a guy come in, change batteries every morning on a USN 50, inspect welds, and never once calibrate the machine over a 4 day period. His documentation looked GOOD though!

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